misfire...after coils and plugs changed.
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Yea this weekend I am putting on all the stock parts, I think my engine is done too. I am running a compression test this weekend. I have a lot of stuff done to the car so I have my work cut out for me. Yea I have no cat and a Greddy exhaust so mine is deep too, you would notice this sound, mine happen on the highway when I downshifted and my car jus said F-you and then died.....well keep us posted man I have already been in fights with the dealership so I feel your pain....good luck bro.
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I hate when dealerships are stupid ***-clowns about replacing things with aftermarket parts on it. Why a dealership would want to pass up a chance to make easy money is beyond me. Maybe they are hoping you will pay out of pocket so they get time and a half for labor? So much easier and less of a headache for them to just replace the engine under warranty than fight the consumer and try to rip them off for a few more bucks. Some dealerships are real dumb asses and then they wonder why their CSI's come back so f'ing shitty every quarter.
#28
well I may be completely screwed, after talking to the district manager and Mazda technical hot line BOTH have denied warranty citing my aftermarket parts 'may have cause the problem' I'm told they are the only two that has actual say on the coverage once they have spoken that's it. I asked them to write a letter as to why they are dening warranty, they haven't faxed it yet. What do I do now? Get a lawyer to contact them, bite the bullet and get it fixed, basically am I really screwed or is there another route I can take to get this resolved.
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Well spoke to the owner of the dealership, he said the reason they denied warranty is due to a clogged cat, took it to Master Muffler to have it verified to see if they are full of it or not. Well they are full of it, nothing wrong with the exhaust or the cat, they said I have to prove it wasn't my parts here they go. They can't say anything about the intake or they would be saying the Mazdaspeed intake is bad for the car. I think I have them by the ***** now.
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Well spoke to the owner of the dealership, he said the reason they denied warranty is due to a clogged cat, took it to Master Muffler to have it verified to see if they are full of it or not. Well they are full of it, nothing wrong with the exhaust or the cat, they said I have to prove it wasn't my parts here they go. They can't say anything about the intake or they would be saying the Mazdaspeed intake is bad for the car. I think I have them by the ***** now.
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btw: why this is critical to resolve:
"Wankel engines are very sensitive to misfires since the engine will lose momentum from the lost stroke and get slammed back into movement from the next chamber firing. Care of the ignition system is of utmost importance to avoid the problem."
"Wankel engines are very sensitive to misfires since the engine will lose momentum from the lost stroke and get slammed back into movement from the next chamber firing. Care of the ignition system is of utmost importance to avoid the problem."
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Well spoke to the owner of the dealership, he said the reason they denied warranty is due to a clogged cat, took it to Master Muffler to have it verified to see if they are full of it or not. Well they are full of it, nothing wrong with the exhaust or the cat, they said I have to prove it wasn't my parts here they go. They can't say anything about the intake or they would be saying the Mazdaspeed intake is bad for the car. I think I have them by the ***** now.
Its easy just tell them that Mazdaspeed intake is the Rebadged version of AEM. in the other words, Mazda PAID AEM to sell them their intake, but instead of AEM's names they put Mazdaspeed on it.
And why would they give people **** about AEM and not Mazdaspeed. if this thing goes up to court they will lose for sure.
About the Exhaust part, clogged? isnt it super easy to tell if its clogged? EVEN its clogged, what kind of bullshit is a *more free flowing exhuast* will cause a cat to fail faster than a more restricted one ?
Seriously Mazda should stop hiring people who cant even finish high school.
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#36
^^^Agreed, even if the cat had clogged it would be cause the engine is messed up, supercats don't just crumble and turn into a cork. they are screwed they shot themselves in the foot now I can't wait to get this over with.
BTW is that a double big mac? I have been meaning to ask.
BTW is that a double big mac? I have been meaning to ask.
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^^^Agreed, even if the cat had clogged it would be cause the engine is messed up, supercats don't just crumble and turn into a cork. they are screwed they shot themselves in the foot now I can't wait to get this over with.
BTW is that a double big mac? I have been meaning to ask.
BTW is that a double big mac? I have been meaning to ask.
but most of us are not the dumbasses that they're looking for, too bad, they can save their bs for someone else.
Just wait, they will fix urs.
P.S. : Nope, thats not double big mac, is called MegaMac, a *Japan only* product. I tried one when I was in Tokyo couple months ago. At first I was like hmm lets check out and see what kind of crap they sell in McDonaldos in Japan, then I saw this *MegaMac* thing I was like wtf? so I got one. **** is huge ! shared it with my gf. Oh, they also have McPork too LOL !
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That is good to hear bose that you got them screwed. I love how both the DSM and the shop manager claim they are the final decision. If they try and dick and tom you take it MNAO and start a **** storm. I am real good at doing that, IMO I don't think you will need a lawyer to win this one.
P.S. : Nope, thats not double big mac, is called MegaMac, a *Japan only* product. I tried one when I was in Tokyo couple months ago. At first I was like hmm lets check out and see what kind of crap they sell in McDonaldos in Japan, then I saw this *MegaMac* thing I was like wtf? so I got one. **** is huge ! shared it with my gf. Oh, they also have McPork too LOL !
That **** looks bad *** even though I more of a Wendy's person then a McDonalds person.
P.S. : Nope, thats not double big mac, is called MegaMac, a *Japan only* product. I tried one when I was in Tokyo couple months ago. At first I was like hmm lets check out and see what kind of crap they sell in McDonaldos in Japan, then I saw this *MegaMac* thing I was like wtf? so I got one. **** is huge ! shared it with my gf. Oh, they also have McPork too LOL !
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wow, i'm having this problem too.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
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wow, i'm having this problem too.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
but u better make sure you plug the plug wire to the right spark plugs too.
Put it back to stock and bring it in
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What I do is replace one plug at a time; therefore it's impossible to get it mixed up as there's only one place for the plug/wire to go. Also, if you're doing the work yourself, did you use dielectric grease?
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wow, i'm having this problem too.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
I didn't want to make a thread of it after seeing this one so hopefully if by describing everything going on, maybe i'll still get feedback (sorry OP)
'bout two weeks ago i couldn't pull after 4-4.5k without it hesitating like crazy (i replaced coils about a month before this).
I put in new plugs about 5 hours ago, did some pulls and it's not AS bad, but at 4.5-5k is does a hard misfire/jerk/hesitation...sluggish acceleration up to 7, then from 7 i get power like crazy, then another hard misfire/jerk/hesitation at 8k.
the plugs were replaced back in the summer because they kept popping off. maybe i crossed one of the plug wires when doing the coils? I would think it would have been obvious then, unless not? just in case, when looking at all four coil packs, in order from left to right, which is which? LTLT or TLTL
also, i have a hi-flow cat from SR Motorsports, i have about 15k miles on it. I remember reading in another thread that a lot of earlier produced hi-flo cats were going out after so long as well. thoughts? i still have the oem, i wanna just go ahead and get the SRs cut and made into test pipe.
any info will be great. i'll be reseting the ecu soon as well.
pull the cat and look in it.. if it is bad it is obvious..
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something like that. i'll pull the cat asap, weather sucks hard though.
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well that's the thing, there's actually a long story about that (swoope knows). i'll have to see what I can do about doing that though...geez, "compression tests are like age tests" my friend tells me, "you'll always be worried about the results."
something like that. i'll pull the cat asap, weather sucks hard though.
something like that. i'll pull the cat asap, weather sucks hard though.
if not i might pull the scanaylzer cables out of my car and see what we can find..
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any other suggestions? idk if there'd be any, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
#47
You got them already.
Its easy just tell them that Mazdaspeed intake is the Rebadged version of AEM. in the other words, Mazda PAID AEM to sell them their intake, but instead of AEM's names they put Mazdaspeed on it.
And why would they give people **** about AEM and not Mazdaspeed. if this thing goes up to court they will lose for sure.
About the Exhaust part, clogged? isnt it super easy to tell if its clogged? EVEN its clogged, what kind of bullshit is a *more free flowing exhuast* will cause a cat to fail faster than a more restricted one ?
Seriously Mazda should stop hiring people who cant even finish high school.
Its easy just tell them that Mazdaspeed intake is the Rebadged version of AEM. in the other words, Mazda PAID AEM to sell them their intake, but instead of AEM's names they put Mazdaspeed on it.
And why would they give people **** about AEM and not Mazdaspeed. if this thing goes up to court they will lose for sure.
About the Exhaust part, clogged? isnt it super easy to tell if its clogged? EVEN its clogged, what kind of bullshit is a *more free flowing exhuast* will cause a cat to fail faster than a more restricted one ?
Seriously Mazda should stop hiring people who cant even finish high school.
You have to fight for your rights.
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Exhaust ... lol its after the cat, and more free flowing, how the FUXK a more free flowing exhaust can fudge a CAT up even faster than the Stock, more restricted one.
Dealerships .... sux these days ...
#49
Dealerships like to bullshit you out of your money. They finished highschool, and they know they get more $$$ if they bullshit their way into your wallet.
Seriously. I got charged for a powersteering fluid change when there isn't ******* powersteering fluid to change. I told them to save their BS for someone else, and now I am adamant about never going to dealerships for maintenance.
Seriously. I got charged for a powersteering fluid change when there isn't ******* powersteering fluid to change. I told them to save their BS for someone else, and now I am adamant about never going to dealerships for maintenance.