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Old 11-23-2008 | 04:58 PM
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Oil leak

Has anyone experienced any oil leaks????

I currently have a 2005 51,000 miles
i have lately noticed that i have to top off the oil level more frequently..right now its at 2 1/2 quarts in 2,400 miles its not a big leak as to say it leaves a puddle on my driveway but just not when i got under it i notice that there is little seapage and oil little drops accumilating in front of the oil pan where the pulleys are its also oil dripping on the oil pump..... is there a common problem that i need to address?????? i took it to the dealership to get some warranty done since they said it was out at 50 K miles and they said it had a leak but did not repair it under warranty.. they said ohh its no big deal the car has 50 K miles.. its normal

maybe the crank seal??

Any insight on this issue is helpfull!

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Old 11-23-2008 | 05:13 PM
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^ Dealership is wrong.

Oil leaks are not normal. Not uncommon, but not normal.

North American updated Engine warranty covers all gaskets and seals. for 8 / 160k km.

Get them to honour the warranty.
Old 11-23-2008 | 05:14 PM
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Ohh really? thanks man!!!! I did not know that.
They told me 50K miles was the mark as far as warranty work when i got my motor mounts replaced and my starter.
Old 11-23-2008 | 05:24 PM
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Warranty was extended on specific components..

See this PDF: whoops wrong pdf... jest a sec...


Damn, I can't find the actual letter online, but it is described in this thread:


Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
CONFIRMED FROM SERVICE DEPARTMENTS AT MULTIPLE DEALERS
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Dear Mazda Dealer:

Mazda Motor Corporation is extending the warranty coverage on Rotary Engine Core Components on all 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 model year RX-8 vehicles. The warranty coverage for the Rotary Engine Core Components is extended to 8 years (96 months) from the original warranty start date, with a 100,000 mileage limitation.

The following is a list of components covered by this warranty:

Rotary Engine Core

Rotary Housing and Internal Parts

Internal Seals and Gaskets

This is not a recall. This is a warranty extension for the specified parts only. Inspection and replacement of non-failed parts will not be eligible for reimbursement to the dealer or customer. This program extends the warranty period for actual failures due to defects in workmanship or materials in accordance with Mazda Warranty Policy and Procedures.

EDIT: (scans from commodude23)
================================================== ====






UPDATE!! Press Release from Mazda attached https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...47#post2495847
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...71&postcount=1

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Old 11-23-2008 | 05:29 PM
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sounds like the crank seal alright - this problem has plagued me (but only happens on track days). If you can get it fixed on warranty - definately do it .
Old 11-23-2008 | 05:31 PM
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Yeah i hope i can.. I switched dealership after the one i usually went to denied me the updated starter because they said my batt was bad! took to other dealer and they said batt was good replaced it! and said my motor mounts were bad and replaced on same day.
Old 11-23-2008 | 06:16 PM
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Just checked again.. fille dup with gas and hgad to top off the oil after topping it off 2 days ago =[

well i got back under the car and on the right side being the left if not under the car there is a unit that has like 4 tubes carrying a brown fluid and there are about 4 nuts on the frnt of it and its also leaking oil.. Im wondering if this is the oil pump
Old 11-23-2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
Just checked again.. fille dup with gas and hgad to top off the oil after topping it off 2 days ago =[

well i got back under the car and on the right side being the left if not under the car there is a unit that has like 4 tubes carrying a brown fluid and there are about 4 nuts on the frnt of it and its also leaking oil.. Im wondering if this is the oil pump
that is the oil metering pump for the engine. it pumps the oil into the rotary chambers, you can tighten the bolts. but i would get the dealer to check it..

this has not been a big issue but it does happen..

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they said the crank seal is leaking! but not covered under warranty =[

330 to change it if they dont have to pull the motor to swap it
1200 roughly if they need to pull the motor...
Old 11-24-2008 | 12:37 PM
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1200 to pull the motor does not sound bad.

The problem is, why is it not covered under warranty ?

even your basic warranty is out, you should still have powertrain warranty.
Old 11-24-2008 | 12:57 PM
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The problem is, why is it not covered under warranty ?
Bad dealership. May want to ask them for the number to MANO so you can call them and politely ask them (with the service manager standing next to you) if the seal is covered under the core warranty where it says it is.
Old 11-24-2008 | 12:59 PM
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These dealership will be able to bill Mazda. Its just that it takes some time and paper work to be done.

why dont they just "do it" ? but for some reason, they just wanna harass the crap out of the customer, make them pay cash.

cash is king maybe?
Old 11-24-2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
Has anyone experienced any oil leaks????

I currently have a 2005 51,000 miles
i have lately noticed that i have to top off the oil level more frequently..right now its at 2 1/2 quarts in 2,400 miles its not a big leak as to say it leaves a puddle on my driveway but just not when i got under it i notice that there is little seapage and oil little drops accumilating in front of the oil pan where the pulleys are its also oil dripping on the oil pump..... is there a common problem that i need to address?????? i took it to the dealership to get some warranty done since they said it was out at 50 K miles and they said it had a leak but did not repair it under warranty.. they said ohh its no big deal the car has 50 K miles.. its normal

maybe the crank seal??

Any insight on this issue is helpfull!

thanks
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I have a 2004 rx8. Same problem but worse. It was the oil cooler lines. Mazda did not want to cover this problem so I had to call corporate and remind them that I have taken the car in 12 times in the last year. That extended warranty covers pretty much nothing. They said they would fix it for me as a courtesy. Thanks Mazda. It was going to cost me $714. I will NEVER buy Mazda again.
Old 11-24-2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
1200 to pull the motor does not sound bad.

The problem is, why is it not covered under warranty ?

even your basic warranty is out, you should still have powertrain warranty.

They won't cover it under powertrain warranty. I suggest you call corporate. I have since filed under the BBB - lemon law.
Old 11-24-2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sjsmall1
I have a 2004 rx8. Same problem but worse. It was the oil cooler lines. Mazda did not want to cover this problem so I had to call corporate and remind them that I have taken the car in 12 times in the last year. That extended warranty covers pretty much nothing. They said they would fix it for me as a courtesy. Thanks Mazda. It was going to cost me $714. I will NEVER buy Mazda again.
I actually kinda worry about the oil cooler lines too.

I know they have a recall in Canada. Maybe Mazda think that We never use Road salt in the USA so no recall is needed. WRONG

My oil cooler couplers have rust all over them. sooner or later its going to break. and I'll make sure that happens before my B2B expires *cough*

Originally Posted by sjsmall1
They won't cover it under powertrain warranty. I suggest you call corporate. I have since filed under the BBB - lemon law.
Its not me having the problem, its someone else. that was just my reply
Old 11-24-2008 | 01:19 PM
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If you do end up having to do it yourself - this thread could be usefull

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/oil-leak-not-112484/
Old 11-24-2008 | 01:43 PM
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I only notice some oil leaking(seeping) from the oil pan gasket on the drivers side....i should have that checked out before i get out of my b2b warranty
Old 11-24-2008 | 02:03 PM
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i sugest going back to premier mazda and not roger what ever dealer ... considering they lied to you about upgrading the starter. also since primer noticed and replaced your motor mounts while roger beasly mazda said nothing about it
Old 11-24-2008 | 03:43 PM
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Yeah there is also oil drops on the omp??? where there are 4 lines i believe like i mentioned earlier but they didnt say anything was leakin... where the 3 coolant lines meet right above them there is oil on the rubber hoses..

SO FAR ive burned 3 QT of oil in 2,600 miles...

i usually burn abound 2.5QT in oil change interval.

i called premier and they said that im just barely above 50 K miles and that they would bring it up to mazda and see if they would cover it and that i have a good case..

funny thing is the dealership told me i had a leak but didnt advise anytthing else on fixing it... they just said it was normal... and seapage was normal as well. because it had 48K miles at that time. i have a appointment at the other dealership thats willing to work with me. I hope mazda covers it...
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ok just got under my car again.. and i removed the under lining of the car and there is only seapage on the crank pully..

There is oil uner my coolany hoses and oil is dripping from under my water pump pulley and oil is dripping from the 4 bolts that are on the OMP....

is there a gasket that is on there???
Old 11-24-2008 | 05:55 PM
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oh i was trying to see where it was leaking so i left it running normal at idle and i began to raise the RPm up and now my CEL keeps coming on and blinking.. isnt that a mis fire???
Old 11-24-2008 | 06:10 PM
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you need to clean all the oil up THEN go for a run and look under there again .
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05rx8mazda let me talk to your dealership that is bs no oil leak is normal and since you are out of warranty i would call Mazda NA since your dealership knew about the problem and did not fix it. Did you save you paperwork it stated the problem about the oil leak when you had 48k miles on the car?
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I checked my garage floor and there was a puddle of oil last night.. fresh so i know its leaking for sure.. I cleaned the OMP and the hoses and the oil pan and part of the block.. i checked by the crank pullet and no seapage.. which is strange they said that was leaking.

The most oil drops are by the OMP under it and under the water pump pulley..

ran around town for a while.. oil level is the same as yesterday no leaks so far but img onna check in the morning.
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05rx8mazda let me talk to your dealership that is bs no oil leak is normal and since you are out of warranty i would call Mazda NA since your dealership knew about the problem and did not fix it. Did you save you paperwork it stated the problem about the oil leak when you had 48k miles on the car?

I remember a while back i told them i suspected a leak and he said ohh its nothing that the mechanic checked it because of the mileage it had.. just like they check that my car has no broken windshield when its cracked lol and they say my clutch needs replacement when it was recently done. in the paper work he checked the box that said leaks detected..... As far as the paper work i left it in my friends car and never got it back.. his girl took his nuts so he doesnt talk to his friends anymore.. no contact with him anymore.

The dealership is roger beasly mazda on burnet road
I have a appointment at Premier mazda in georgetown tx.. i just didnt want to lose hope in that dealer ive been going there for the past 4 years till now.. and well i wont go there anymore


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