^nope, the warranty only covers the core and CAT. It doesn't cover any LIM or UIM.

 

Even though you're out of warranty, if you've had an engine replacement or any prior carbon related problems (APV motor, intake, etc.) have the dealership check with Mazda and they might cut you a break. I guess there are updated parts for the SSV, but the way I look at it...if my original SSV took 100k to get gunked up enough to throw the 2070 code, why not just clean it and it should last another 100k? Why pay hundreds extra for the updated parts when I won;t even keep the car that much longer.

 

I think my dealer quote was close to 1k parts and labor. NO came out of my mouth before he even finished the sentence, but they are checking with Mazda for me to see if they can do anything since I have had prior carbon related issues. I had the engine, intake, and APV motor replace under warranty.

 

Just got my 05' RX8 serviced at the dealership for the same error code. He quoted me $600 for parts and labor. The engine was replace a year and a half ago so how could there be build up from 40k miles?

I have been reading around these threads and see that it could be fixed by running the engine hard. Can anyone confirm that it actually makes the CEL go away?

Should i just wait till warmer weather before i spend that money to have it fixed or would that cause too much damage?

The car still runs idle but does vibrate, but doesnt stall. Slight hesitation during acceleration but seems to run like **** every winter.

 

No guarantee that "running it hard" will eliminate this CEL.
Also depends on if the valve is actually sticking... could also be the solenoid, actuator, or impact switch.

 

Well dealership diagnosed that it was the shutter valve, and that's what they plan to replace. So $600 may not even fix the problem if thats not the case.

 

Did they verify the valve itself was sticking?
They might have just been going off the code, but many SSV related components can cause that code

 

Yes. and they said the valve can't be cleaned or fixed and has to be replaced due to a "custom" part. Not sure how much of that is BS

 

The BS level is through the roof:


You can read all about this here:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=184663
The "custom part" they might be referring to is the upgraded valve, which can be purchased without going through the dealer if you wish to install yourself.
The part numbers are at the bottom of the first post in the link above.
Though most just remove and clean the valve.

 

Yeah i thought so too. He also took the liberty to suggest i replace my engine mounts too. Yeah i love giving my money away why not!!!


Good news though. My CEL went away. Weather got warmer this past weekend. Dont know if that had anything to do with it, but it runs the same as it has when it was on, which isnt bad cos it ran fine.

 

100k warranty won't cover SSV. I tried. Even the dealership told me that Mazda are real ****** with this warranty. The horrendous customer service from Mazda since I bought this car alone makes me not want to buy another Mazda again. In many cases they are trying to pretend these MAJOR problems don't exist and aren't widespread.

 

If the valve is just gunked up (which is probably the case for P2070) theres no reason why the dealer can't remove it and clean it if you don't want to try to DIY. Of course they will tell you you have to replace the whole assmebly but it isn't necessary. I've had my 8 for 7 years now and it just started having SSV issues. I figure if it took 7 years for the valve to get gunked up, all you need to do it clean it and it should be good to go for another 7 years. There is an updated, stronger actuator available which is why they will want you to replace the whole thing but is by no means necessary.

 

I'm confused.
You said this after quoting me... are you trying to tell me something?
Nothing you mentioned is anything new that I haven't said already.

 

Hey Jon, Do you have to drop the engine to change the actual secondary shutter valve? The dealer quoted me at 752.18 (parts and labor included along with seafoam) to replace it with the new one. If they have to drop the engine, wouldn't that cost a lot more.

 

Nope.
Watch the video in this thread and you'll see how its done
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=184663

 

You rock man.

 

Looks like I'm part of this party, my valve got stuck today. A friend of mine helped me identified the problem. Since the valve is stuck he recommended to carbon clean the engine and that would fix it. Just like that? Would the valve not stick no more or do I have to stick a long screwdriver to unstick it first and then carbon clean?

 

Decarbing the engine has NOTHING to do with the SSV and you'll be wasting your time

 

Oops. Misused my words back there. The valve is not stuck, more like it sticks. Would decarb still work?

 

Nope

If the valve is showing signs of sticking, its best to remove and clean it.
Freeing the valve (without removing it) is only a temporary fix and will likely return.
When I freed a stuck valve, it returned about 6 months later and then I had to remove/clean it.

If a temp fix is what you're looking for now, I would recommend that you remove the UIM so you have a visual sight of the SSV.
Then spray carb cleaner right onto the valve while you cycle it open/close.
Repeat several times until you're satisfied.

If you watched my SSV Removal video, you would have seen at the end of the video, once the valve was removed, the entire housing was covered with build-up.
And then if you remove the UIM to free the sticky valve, you'll notice that most of the valve isn't visible through the runners.
This is why you can't completely clean the valve of build-up without removing it... because a good part of the valve is not exposed.

 

Since it has warmed up, I haven't thrown any CEL's for it, but nevertheless I am going to get it cleaned out as well as a full engine seafoam next week. Can't wait! Also getting new plugs, coils, and MSD wires. I'll be set!

 

its actually pretty easy to do the first time. as long as you have enough time to do it. i freed mine by hand a few times before removing and cleaning it.

 

OK... I'm confused... why are you quoting me on this?

 

you said...."Freeing the valve (without removing it) is only a temporary fix and will likely return".....and i did do that a few times, but like you said, its a temp fix. thanks for all your help when i had my SSV issues.

 

I have a question, i'm attempting to clean my SSV this weekend but I'm curious to know what are you guys using to clean the SSV? ZOOM engine cleaner?? thanks