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thew 07-10-2005 04:40 AM

Again, its not really all that Bad.
1st we dont really know WT#$%# is up here.. So Far I have not heard doo doo.. that means nothing, but remeber its a Brand New Car.... Its got to have some Issues.. Mazda Is still the best car CO. for people like us that love to mod tweek and enjoy our cars.. Give Mazda a Brake and lets see what this is really about.. I dread the thought of taking my car to the dealer cause the Beat it ,scratch or otherwise abuse it but... Let snot thow the car out with the dirty oil !!

New Cars will have isssues...
Keep your fingers crossed this is not a major issue.

Rasputin 07-10-2005 07:28 AM

I don't understand either why people get all nervous because a recall that is free of charge and will solve a potentially important issue on their car.

MI_FamilyMan 07-10-2005 08:29 AM

Not to mention the fact that if they weren't on this board, they wouldn't even know about this and would be driving around happy as can be.

adrian-1 07-10-2005 11:09 AM

Freakin' GREAT.
This is not good news. I live in TX and have the Greddy turbo which increases the temps even more. I'll wait and see what they say the prob is.

I may just have to get a sportbike and keep the car in "summer storage" :rolleyes: .

DreRX8 07-10-2005 11:46 AM

Car forums are funny. ANOTHER RECALL--I'm TRADING IN--what a crock of bullsh*t. When/if I receive notice from my dealer then I'll go with the flow. What a bunch of whiney babies--do you guys really think that no other car has recalls?

Aseras 07-10-2005 12:01 PM

well at least is isnt like ford where the mdiea has to jump on the bandwagon and people needed to die and wreck all over the place before a fix came out.

mitchfried 07-10-2005 12:09 PM

I have no issues with recalls (much better than having a problem with no fix) except as it may impact on resale value. Remember the mid 1980's Audi 5000 sudden accelerator/runaway car issues? You couldn't give the car away once the panic set in.

I've had zero problems with my 8 and it's running great. I hope that a new flash won't degrade performance.

Sigma 07-10-2005 12:15 PM


well at least is isnt like ford where the mdiea has to jump on the bandwagon and people needed to die and wreck all over the place before a fix came out.
Funny thing is that Ford is widely considered the most proactive manufacturer when it comes to recalls by far.

It could be like Honda, which in the past has attempted to go so far as to sue for the right to withold its' Recall and TSB information from the general public. So that even once it got off its' ass to release the information the general consumer wouldn't know about it for as long as possible.

RX8-TX 07-10-2005 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by mitchfried
I have no issues with recalls (much better than having a problem with no fix) except as it may impact on resale value. Remember the mid 1980's Audi 5000 sudden accelerator/runaway car issues? You couldn't give the car away once the panic set in.

I've had zero problems with my 8 and it's running great. I hope that a new flash won't degrade performance.

ditto.

zoom44 07-10-2005 12:54 PM

stop with the silly panicing. i said before thre's no reason to get all jumpy and pissed off etc. they have discovered and issue that effects some cars. they are going to "fix" all the cars even the majority that have no symptoms. they are being very proactive about it. relax it not abig deal.

mitchfried 07-10-2005 01:17 PM

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rkostolni 07-10-2005 01:49 PM

will it be a problem getting this fixes for those of us who are turbo'd?

Sigma 07-10-2005 01:53 PM

Recall work must be performed on all cars no matter what. Unless of course it involves replacing something you already replaced.

Air Force RX8 07-10-2005 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
Car forums are funny. ANOTHER RECALL--I'm TRADING IN--what a crock of bullsh*t. When/if I receive notice from my dealer then I'll go with the flow. What a bunch of whiney babies--do you guys really think that no other car has recalls?

Well actually it isn't just about the recall, it's about all the other issues I have had and having to drive 30 minutes one way to get service and have the idiots not have the right parts, or forgot to order this or that. I'm just tired of dealing with all these trips at my expense and wasted time away from work as they do not offer loaners or courtesy cars to drop you off when you live so far away. I have enough equity in my car that I have that luxury. So I know where you can stick your "whiney babies" comment.

RotorGeek 07-10-2005 02:36 PM

I will wait and see what Mazda says. It will be repaired for free so I don't care.

zoom44 07-10-2005 05:07 PM

air force your problem is your dealer not mazda

Nubo 07-10-2005 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gomez
Relax. Don't jump to any rash conclusions. The smarts in this car will allow Mazda to tailor the flash for the operating conditions. They will be able to modify the fuel delivery to dump more fuel in if the car is stationary at high revs for an extended period. How often do you operate the car that way?

I hope you're right. Then again I'd sure like to know what kind of "high revs" and "extended periods" they're talking about. I can't imagine anyone operates their vehicle like this, other than the 3-4K/10 sec shutoff procedure and I wouldn't call 10 seconds "extended". However if they are talking about regimes that you'd encounter in stop-and-go traffic then that's bad news. I can already see the needle move under those conditions.

Gomez 07-10-2005 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nubo
I hope you're right. Then again I'd sure like to know what kind of "high revs" and "extended periods" they're talking about. I can't imagine anyone operates their vehicle like this, other than the 3-4K/10 sec shutoff procedure and I wouldn't call 10 seconds "extended". However if they are talking about regimes that you'd encounter in stop-and-go traffic then that's bad news. I can already see the needle move under those conditions.

In stop-and-go traffic, you're not at high revs. Vehicle speed is an input to the PCM to determine injector duty cycle....they can tailor the flash this way.

Air Force RX8 07-10-2005 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
air force your problem is your dealer not mazda

Well, I think that goes without saying...figuring that out isn't solving the mystery of the decade by any stretch of the imagination. It's all these things that keep forcing me to have to deal with them that is driving my decision, not the fact that there are issues.

I have not been bashing the car or Mazda, just stating that these things are making me want to get out of this vicious cycle. I really enjoy the 8 and all, but it is just beginning to become less fun with every trip to Macon.

TeamRX8 07-10-2005 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
stop with the silly panicing. i said before thre's no reason to get all jumpy and pissed off etc. they have discovered and issue that effects some cars. they are going to "fix" all the cars even the majority that have no symptoms. they are being very proactive about it. relax it not abig deal.


most of the people on this board are young, inexperienced, and just don't know any different

I'll leave it at that :o

SDB 07-10-2005 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Air Force RX8
Well actually it isn't just about the recall, it's about all the other issues I have had and having to drive 30 minutes one way to get service and have the idiots not have the right parts, or forgot to order this or that. I'm just tired of dealing with all these trips at my expense and wasted time away from work as they do not offer loaners or courtesy cars to drop you off when you live so far away. I have enough equity in my car that I have that luxury. So I know where you can stick your "whiney babies" comment.

I don't understand why the dealer doesn't give a loaner. The RX-8 sales brochure says "And should your Mazda Rx-8 require a warranty repair, the Mazda Service Transportation Solution can typically provide another vehicle to drive." Note the word - typically - not sure what this means.

So far, at 14000 miles, I haven't needed warranty service but I asked the service writer last time I had my oil changed. His response was that if the service required over 4 hours then I would get a loaner. 4 hours seemed kind of long but I haven't needed to test it yet.

clydejmuggs 07-10-2005 09:27 PM

If you don't have any issues now...why not wait until your next service and check on the recall?

olddragger 07-10-2005 09:37 PM

Like I said before Kudo's to Mazda for stepping up and this may be a good thing. It seems to me they would have to push a lot of gas through the engine to cool the cat anymore--- hell it is already running rich to start with. Even with the latest flash. I still say that the heat under the hood can cause some problems also. I hear what all are saying about the tanks an such but heat is heat. I wonder if the sheilding will be trapping some heat under the car also--maybe not. We will just have to wait and see. Is there anyway to make the engine run cooler? I dnt know withthe electronics in this thing. Hell on the track the engine stays cool! Moving all that air.
olddragger

Sigma 07-10-2005 09:40 PM


I don't understand why the dealer doesn't give a loaner. The RX-8 sales brochure says "And should your Mazda Rx-8 require a warranty repair, the Mazda Service Transportation Solution can typically provide another vehicle to drive." Note the word - typically - not sure what this means.
It means that not every dealership choose to participate in the program. Most dealerships will grant loaners, but some will not. And every dealership has a different benchmark of what kind of work it has to be to get a loaner car -- some will give you a loaner for a simple oil change, some require it to be more than 3 hours or even longer.

LiveToRev 07-10-2005 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by Gomez
More info has come to hand. Looks as if all affected cars will need modification. A heat shield fitted to the fuel tank, and possibly some additional work as well. New cars off the boat have had the heat shield fitted at the factory.

My contact tells me cars built in late March '05 (not sure of the exact date) have the new shield installed. Every earlier RX-8 will need a heat shield. I believe all North American RX-8's (including cars built after late March '05) will get a new flash as part of this recall, as well. Looks like they'll be relying on the new flash to drop the cat temp which is affecting the other components mentioned earlier.

I'm still not sure how this will all pan out for owners of RX-8's in countries outside North America, but it is looking likely (to me) that they'll need modifying too.

Gomez.

I looked under the car today and saw that there is already a small, metal heat shield that covers the middle of the fuel tank. My car's build date was August 2004 (2005 model year). Can anybody else confirm this or if I have mistaken this metal piece as a heat shield?


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