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Old 12-13-2004, 10:11 PM
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Well as of today they ordered a new transmission for my 8. I got a little excited thinking it came with a new clutch but I was corrected. A clutch with 11,000 miles less wear would have been a great I’m sorry about the inconvenience from Mazda headquarters but I am happy that I am not being given the run around. Unfortunately another member was not so lucky. I will let him explain. I’m going to talk to Dwight when I see him to see if anything can be done for him. Well it should be here tomorrow so as soon as I know more I’ll tell you.

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Congrats... I'm still hoping to get mine resolved soon.
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Originally Posted by Slims8
Congrats... I'm still hoping to get mine resolved soon.
Thanks SLim8. I hope you get yours fixed soon too.
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WOW! I forgot what it was like to actually go into 2nd w/o letting the rpms drop. So much so that I kept having to think about it before shifting. Night and day difference from dropping her off to picking her up today. There is a clicking sound when I go into 2nd but everything else seems great. I was a little afraid to get on it since it's a brand new tranny so I took it easy on the way home. Once I put some miles on it I'll feel better.

I am thinking about taking it up North this weekend if anyone wants to join me.

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BTW Is there anything special required for breaking in a new tranny?
Old 12-15-2004, 10:23 PM
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WOW! I have had the same 2-1 shift thing, thanks for all the info everyone i'm gong to call my dealer as soon as I get back from a 2 day work trip next week.
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A couple of months ago I changed my gearbox oil to synthetic. The 6000 mile oil that was warm came out like water. I do not think it was 75 weight oil. I am wondering if they shipped some gearboxes with engine oil. I am going to give MNAO a call tomorrow. and inform them. Maybe the serial numbers are close. That could be why your shift forks are wearing down like that. The only shift fork I have changed in all of my Mazdas was one in a second gen with almost 200000 miles on it. Tell them you want new gearboxes because it sounds like a lot more dammage than just a shift fork and the other dammage might not show up for several thousand miles.

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ps My serial number is JM1FE173640113569

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Originally Posted by John Corbitt
A couple of months ago I changed my gearbox oil to synthetic. The 6000 mile oil that was warm came out like water. I do not think it was 75 weight oil. I am wondering if they shipped some gearboxes with engine oil. I am going to give MNAO a call tomorrow. and inform them. Maybe the serial numbers are close. That could be why your shift forks are wearing down like that. The only shift fork I have changed in all of my Mazdas was one in a second gen with almost 200000 miles on it. Tell them you want new gearboxes because it sounds like a lot more dammage than just a shift fork and the other dammage might not show up for several thousand miles.

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ps My serial number is JM1FE173640113569
do they not put engine oil in the trannys? I know mine did the last time (when the clutch exploded). I thought they used engine oil.
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They do not use engine oil in the transmission. They use transmission fluid.
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Manual transmission? 'Red' Transmission fluid? Excuse my stupidity if this is true, but if it is I have a serious complaint. No wonder my car broke down the last time and is still in my driveway!
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Originally Posted by Boxcar
As of 2 days ago I was not able to go into 1st unless I was under 4mph.


You should't ever attempt to go into 1st unless you are completely stopped. 1st is a start-up gear and it is NOT synchronized.

If you attempt to put the transmission in first while you are moving, you are grinding the gears and stressing the fork, whether you hear it or not.
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Some manual transmissions do use engine oil, the RX-8 transmission is not one of those though.
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does anyone know the number for mazda complains i want to call them because i been having the same problem.
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OK, I guess what I'm getting at is when I looked at my transmission the last time it broke down, the fluid was clear and smelled like Motor oil. Now mysteriously my car is still broke down because of abuse. Should the fluid in my MT be red?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac


You should't ever attempt to go into 1st unless you are completely stopped. 1st is a start-up gear and it is NOT synchronized.

If you attempt to put the transmission in first while you are moving, you are grinding the gears and stressing the fork, whether you hear it or not.
woh woh woh- triple cone synchros on 1st 2nd and 3rd is what i remember, but even so i dont ever go into first until i am nearly stopped. i keep it in second until the bottom then shift down into first or simply into neutral for the stop.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac


You should't ever attempt to go into 1st unless you are completely stopped. 1st is a start-up gear and it is NOT synchronized.
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The RX-8 first gear most definitely has sychros. The lat time cars did not have a synchronized first gear was back in the EARLY 60's. Now Big trucks - 18 wheelers, first gear is not synchronized, but that's not an issue anyway.
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Dealership Dropping my tranny today...

to see wtf is wrong with it. maybe someone can help me out with this....

There is some kind of blocking mechanism when the clutch is up, so the shift won't go in any of the gears from neutral. Well my 4th gear is just out of whack! It tried to block when I have the clutch in (at lower speeds) and sometimes opens the lock when at stand-still with the clutch up. The situation while in motion makes like a hydrolic wrench type of sound.

Everyone wish me luck!

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bent shift fork? bad synchro?
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shifts fine...synchro maybe...but odd
Old 12-16-2004, 03:37 PM
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Upgrade the flywheel when you have the chance.. hehe..
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Welcome to the tranny club. That sounds like my problem the first time. The rebuilt the entire transmission (well, 87 parts anyway). Let me know what they have to say about it.

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my tranny

Hey my tranny is screwed up to. Its really pissing me off the dealer keeps telling me its normal. So i today i told them to drive it with me there and he could not recreate the tranny issue. BUt after he drove it he heard teh sound of my tranny which sounded like a loose flywheel. So i told them i wont take my car back untill you fix it yada yada.



I had problems with my 2 gear grinding, 6th gear not enguaging, reverse wont enguage, and 3rg gear grinds. I also have a mushy feeling in the shifter, clutch very hard to operate , a wirring sound or creaking sound when clutch is not pressed.
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Originally Posted by eclps0
Hey my tranny is screwed up to. Its really pissing me off the dealer keeps telling me its normal. So i today i told them to drive it with me there and he could not recreate the tranny issue. BUt after he drove it he heard teh sound of my tranny which sounded like a loose flywheel. So i told them i wont take my car back untill you fix it yada yada.



I had problems with my 2 gear grinding, 6th gear not enguaging, reverse wont enguage, and 3rg gear grinds. I also have a mushy feeling in the shifter, clutch very hard to operate , a wirring sound or creaking sound when clutch is not pressed.
"It's abuse. We can not repair your vehicle. The only way that can be caused is from severe abuse, side stepping the clutch, or on modified cars!"

Sorry man, I was having flashbacks. :D
So is your car still in the shop? Who is paying for what?
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hey everbody, i am having issues also, i am looking to get statements from everybody who has had clutch problems but i would appreciate and tranny issues. i posted this same request on another thread so if you have seen all this please bare with me. i am looking for statements including the problem. whether or not it was warrantied work. the dealership who did the work and any other info you might find useful. my email is isuzutrooperfan@yahoo.com (i know, i traded the trooper for the 8). thanks for any help you can provide.


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