20" + Kumho tires v.s. Stock wheels/tires
#1
20" + Kumho tires v.s. Stock wheels/tires
Hello guys,
I'm a new RX8 owner and would like to upgrade wheels, but i'm concerned about the FEELING that stock wheel/Potenza tires that i may lose with 20" Chrome wheels (heavier) and Kumho 712 Ecsta Supra 255/35/20 tires.
Actually i'm not planning to lower the suspension. I will wait to see if the 20's will give a moderate smooth ride or something to crush by back.
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
Thank you very much
I'm a new RX8 owner and would like to upgrade wheels, but i'm concerned about the FEELING that stock wheel/Potenza tires that i may lose with 20" Chrome wheels (heavier) and Kumho 712 Ecsta Supra 255/35/20 tires.
Actually i'm not planning to lower the suspension. I will wait to see if the 20's will give a moderate smooth ride or something to crush by back.
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
Thank you very much
#6
Don't go to a 20 inch wheel unless you just want to look like a rapper. Heavier wheels with a poor ride will be the result, not to mention it will look like a cartoon car. There are plenty of tasteful changes you can make using 17 or 18 inch wheels that will actually make the car perform as good or better.
#7
Originally Posted by Kurt Bob
Don't go to a 20 inch wheel unless you just want to look like a rapper. Heavier wheels with a poor ride will be the result, not to mention it will look like a cartoon car. There are plenty of tasteful changes you can make using 17 or 18 inch wheels that will actually make the car perform as good or better.
SO IM A RAPPER ?
AND MY 8 LOOKS LIKE A CARTOON CAR !
DONT TALK **** UNLESS U CAN BACK IT UP
#8
I wasn't talking to you, numb nuts! You might be a rapper ... how should I know. I was talking to the person who wanted some advice. If you would like some advice about how to get the "caps lock" button unstuck, I can help you there!
:p
:p
#10
Originally Posted by Kurt Bob
Don't go to a 20 inch wheel unless you just want to look like a rapper. Heavier wheels with a poor ride will be the result, not to mention it will look like a cartoon car. There are plenty of tasteful changes you can make using 17 or 18 inch wheels that will actually make the car perform as good or better.
#12
If you want bling, go with whatever suits your personal taste. However, 20 inch wheels, spinners and such all add unsprung weight. This taxes your braking system and your suspension components; so, be prepared for that. You will have to go with larger brakes to maintain the same braking performance as you have now.
Good luck with your decision!
Good luck with your decision!
#15
thanks JO8
if u plan on autox then hands down not the wheel size
but street and comfort I have no issue's,nobody believe's they are 20' and i get no kick
out of telling anyone.but once they go for a ride then cant imagine how nice goo the ride is.
anyone who says otherwise is talking out there ***.choice the rigth setup for your taste.
my maido wheels/tire hook better than stock wheels.
wish you were in my area so we can go for a ride i positive you will be happy
if u plan on autox then hands down not the wheel size
but street and comfort I have no issue's,nobody believe's they are 20' and i get no kick
out of telling anyone.but once they go for a ride then cant imagine how nice goo the ride is.
anyone who says otherwise is talking out there ***.choice the rigth setup for your taste.
my maido wheels/tire hook better than stock wheels.
wish you were in my area so we can go for a ride i positive you will be happy
#17
Originally Posted by JO8
I will wait to see if the 20's will give a moderate smooth ride or something to crush by back.
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
Have a look at a couple of the sticky threads at the top of this forum:
Effects of wheel size/weight on performance and So you think staggered wheels/tires are a great idea? .
Unsprung weight is critical to keeping good performance handling characteristics and not ruining the ride. I'm of the opinion that the OEM 18" wheels are too heavy already, so unless you're willing to invest $$$$$ to buy 20" wheels that are lighter than the OEM 18" wheels, then 20" wheels/tires WILL downgrade your ride quality significantly. They will also downgrade the responsiveness of your handling significantly, the car will feel more sluggish.
20" wheels/tires are an appearance mod only - Unless you get the ultra-light megadollar wheels, they won't do anything good for performance or ride or responsiveness.
Regards,
Gordon
#18
What is the weight of the Stock 18" wheels?
Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
JO8,
Have a look at a couple of the sticky threads at the top of this forum:
Effects of wheel size/weight on performance and So you think staggered wheels/tires are a great idea? .
Unsprung weight is critical to keeping good performance handling characteristics and not ruining the ride. I'm of the opinion that the OEM 18" wheels are too heavy already, so unless you're willing to invest $$$$$ to buy 20" wheels that are lighter than the OEM 18" wheels, then 20" wheels/tires WILL downgrade your ride quality significantly. They will also downgrade the responsiveness of your handling significantly, the car will feel more sluggish.
20" wheels/tires are an appearance mod only - Unless you get the ultra-light megadollar wheels, they won't do anything good for performance or ride or responsiveness.
Regards,
Gordon
Have a look at a couple of the sticky threads at the top of this forum:
Effects of wheel size/weight on performance and So you think staggered wheels/tires are a great idea? .
Unsprung weight is critical to keeping good performance handling characteristics and not ruining the ride. I'm of the opinion that the OEM 18" wheels are too heavy already, so unless you're willing to invest $$$$$ to buy 20" wheels that are lighter than the OEM 18" wheels, then 20" wheels/tires WILL downgrade your ride quality significantly. They will also downgrade the responsiveness of your handling significantly, the car will feel more sluggish.
20" wheels/tires are an appearance mod only - Unless you get the ultra-light megadollar wheels, they won't do anything good for performance or ride or responsiveness.
Regards,
Gordon
#20
stock wheel = 23 lbs
Average chrome 20's would be at least 35lbs (guess)
I don't know the weight difference of Kumho 255/35/20 v.s. Stock 18's Potenza...
I decided to TRY, and if the ride is that bad, i'll sell the kit. It's that simple.
I will let you know
Average chrome 20's would be at least 35lbs (guess)
I don't know the weight difference of Kumho 255/35/20 v.s. Stock 18's Potenza...
I decided to TRY, and if the ride is that bad, i'll sell the kit. It's that simple.
I will let you know
#21
Originally Posted by JO8
stock wheel = 23 lbs
Average chrome 20's would be at least 35lbs (guess)
I don't know the weight difference of Kumho 255/35/20 v.s. Stock 18's Potenza...
I decided to TRY, and if the ride is that bad, i'll sell the kit. It's that simple.
I will let you know
Average chrome 20's would be at least 35lbs (guess)
I don't know the weight difference of Kumho 255/35/20 v.s. Stock 18's Potenza...
I decided to TRY, and if the ride is that bad, i'll sell the kit. It's that simple.
I will let you know
but even these numbers may be wrong since there were minor changes in the production of the wheels
#22
If you're concerned with horsepower, 17" is the perfect diameter. The larger/smaller you get, the more you lose. I remember reading the technical data regarding the perfect wheel size and the scientific explanation, just can't recall the specifics... 17 was the ideal size though.
#23
Hello guys,
I'm a new RX8 owner and would like to upgrade wheels, but i'm concerned about the FEELING that stock wheel/Potenza tires that i may lose with 20" Chrome wheels (heavier) and Kumho 712 Ecsta Supra 255/35/20 tires.
Actually i'm not planning to lower the suspension. I will wait to see if the 20's will give a moderate smooth ride or something to crush by back.
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
Thank you very much
I'm a new RX8 owner and would like to upgrade wheels, but i'm concerned about the FEELING that stock wheel/Potenza tires that i may lose with 20" Chrome wheels (heavier) and Kumho 712 Ecsta Supra 255/35/20 tires.
Actually i'm not planning to lower the suspension. I will wait to see if the 20's will give a moderate smooth ride or something to crush by back.
I'm the type who prefer good handling v.s. HP, so do you think it will be an upgrade or a "downgrade" ?
Thank you very much
The above bold don't go hand in hand. Wrong choice.
Stick with the 17"/18" suggestions along with the typical decent-handling plethora of UHP or Max Performance tires available and you'll be very pleased with the level of handling available.
Last edited by SouthFL; 08-14-2007 at 01:59 AM.
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