yo 9k what were you suggesting as a replacement for koni yellows? i know its a little off topic but still suspension related
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Originally Posted by 200.mph
(Post 4638995)
yo 9k what were you suggesting as a replacement for koni yellows? i know its a little off topic but still suspension related
But or street car, you mainly just want something is a decent performance upgrade that will last so you get your monies worth. The Bilstiens fit that bill perfectly IMO. |
thanks. do the bilstien shocks add the extra 1/2" drop when paired with s techs like the yellows do?
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Negative on the 1/2" drop. There is a place cheaper than tire rack for suspension stuff. I will tell you through pm if you want.
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please do j
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reading through this, there are several that have been happy, on and off this forum, with the PSS9. Anyone have any idea what the front and rear spring rates are on the PSS9?
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The PSS9's are really different from most off the shelf RX-8 setups. Because of actual R&D, they were not designed to just fit.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-whe...-pss9s-140733/ |
FCM are great. I went from Flex's to FCM on my Miata and the difference for a street car was huge, the Tein's were a pretty brutal street setup, even with softer rear springs and on full soft shocks. FCM are much less "busy" than Konis as well, I found those to amplify low amplitude events. To be completely fair, the Teins were a hair sharper, had a bit better turn in and rotated a bit better, but the compromise in ride wasn't commensurate, not at all. For a car with primarily street intentions, FCM are pretty fucking great. I will be getting them for the RX8 when the time comes. You can have a good handling and comfortable suspension, but you gotta pay. If you just want to go low, get whatever blingy shit you want and eventually learn to hate your car.
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Originally Posted by J8635621
(Post 4639004)
Negative on the 1/2" drop. There is a place cheaper than tire rack for suspension stuff. I will tell you through pm if you want.
Please send me a PM as well if ya don't mind... Thanks ! |
My top choices are Ohlins Road & Track, FCM, and Bilstein PSS9s. FCM was top on my list, but it appears the cost of their RX-8 coilovers has now gone higher than Ohlins, and I would take the Ohlins as my top choice, money-no-object. I really like the idea of the Bilstein PSS9s. I like the inverted monotube dampers in the back, with the adjustment knob relatively easily reachable under the car, no adjustment cables or holes in the trunk liner needed. My main concern with the PSS9 kit is that the minimal lowering is still a 30mm drop from OEM. That's just a bit over an inch. I've read an awful lot from people who know a lot more about it than I that the RX-8 shouldn't be lowered more than an inch, and that 0.5 to 0.8" is about right to keep the suspension geometry sane.
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I recently upgraded from Mazdaspeed coilovers to Ohlins R&T. I loved my Mazdaspeed coilovers, great ride on the street and handled well at the track. My only issue was adjusting the rear shocks, it was a bitch having to crawl half under the car to make adjustments.
I haven't tracked the Ohlins yet because I put them on mid sept, went on vacation for 2 weeks and then stored the car in late Oct. On the street though they are amazing. I haven't done any real spirited driving, mainly around town and hwy but they just feel great. They absorb bumps so well and the car always feels perfectly planted. I wish I could say more but I just don't have the seat time with them yet. I can't wait to get them on track in the spring to see how they perform. |
Originally Posted by rotorfly
(Post 4642046)
I am considering the PSS9's and would also be interested in the suspension source mentioned by J8635621.
Please send me a PM as well if ya don't mind... Thanks ! |
Coilover brand I haven't seen mentioned
So i have an 05 with 62K on the clock and figured its about time to look into replacing the shocks. In my studies I have come across a brand that I have not seen mentioned here. Goodspeed Project, their website looks legit, I.E no "Engrish" being written by some one in China ha-ha. I know you usually get what you pay for however it has also been my experience that price isn't all-ways a reflection on quality. This is especially true in the after market wilderness.
[URL="http://godspeedproject.com/products-by-car-type/parts-for-mazda/mazda-rx8-04-11-mono-ss-coilover-suspension.html"] Does any one have any experience with this brand? Hope i posted this in the right place...? |
Crap. they look just like the BC and Megan coilovers, all just rebranded made in taiwan BS with no R&D.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4639121)
The PSS9's are really different from most off the shelf RX-8 setups. Because of actual R&D, they were not designed to just fit.
I first ran my car on track in stock form and was quite happy with the handling balance and according to FatCat's setup spreadsheet, KW's and Hotchkis bars net a very similar handling balance and my experience backs that up. It has a slight natural understeer bias, but I can easily get it oversteering in the slower corners at least, which might not be the absolute fastest setup, but it's pretty good and still fairly safe for the more casual end user. I'd be weary of tracking a car with the front to rear spring rate bias so vastly different than what most racers use, but at the same time, people have done it and it's worked well. Maybe they're miss-quoting their rates? |
Yeah I would love a set of KW's as well, I have installed a couple of sets. I am still undecided on my next setup.
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The one negative that I came across was that the remote reservoir interferes with brake ducts. I was going to install some ducts on my car for track use (RX-8 Brake Cooler Wheel Brackets), but when the wheel's turned the reservoir and the duct want to occupy the same space, so they're just sitting in my basement now.
So, if anyone wants the ducts, they're for sale. |
@ 9krpmrx8
So would you agree with teh following? Unless you have the coin to drop on the Eibach coil overs or equivalent, don't bother. Therefore most people should just go for Koni yellows and maybe a set of drop springs if that's their personal taste? Even if light track use is intended use....? |
He's going to disagree with that because you said Koni yellows. full disclosure: he's a hardparker
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No mentioned Fortune Autos yet? I have the 500 series black edition with the swift spring upgrade. I really nice high end of middle tier coilovers (<2k). The valving is great. You can run high spring rates without feeling anally violated. I am dropped very low atm. 18x9.5 +38 with 255/35/18 tires and no fender rolling. Never rubs the wheel well. The bottom of the car meets the road more than I am comfortable with tho.
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Originally Posted by J8635621
(Post 4664806)
He's going to disagree with that because you said Koni yellows. full disclosure: he's a hardparker
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Is that not the case everywhere? Koni yellows have had some problems with longevity. They have a great warranty if you want to remove them all the time though.
I believe 9k's choice is bilstein for shocks. He has a buddy that makes them into adjustable coilovers as well but I'm not sure he is a vendor here. You really like cars that catch on fire, huh? |
Originally Posted by J8635621
(Post 4665066)
Is that not the case everywhere? Koni yellows have had some problems with longevity. They have a great warranty if you want to remove them all the time though.
I believe 9k's choice is bilstein for shocks. He has a buddy that makes them into adjustable coilovers as well but I'm not sure he is a vendor here. You really like cars that catch on fire, huh? |
i'm soon about to do autocross what coilovers would you all suggest?
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Originally Posted by that_one_rx8
(Post 4816519)
i'm soon about to do autocross what coilovers would you all suggest?
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