Which is best in the snow?
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Which is best in the snow?
I know there are a million threads about the different tire sizes and wheels, as well as brand names. My question is a little more straightforward than most. I know that I am getting 17inch wheels and tires but not sure which tire to spring for. I am looking at either the dunlop graspic DS-2, the pirelli winter 210 snowsport, or the blizzak ws-50. if anyone owns one of these and can give me your take that would be greatly appreciated as i want the best bang for my buck. if you have any other recommendations that would be awesome as well. thanks for the help!
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LM 25 is the successor of the LM 22 I think and they're available for our stock rims (though I don't think for appropriate 17 rims). Didn't drive with them in the snow yet (since we have none so far), but they feel very good at low temperatures so far. Test results on snow and ice are very good from what I have seen.
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Originally Posted by AQA101
LM 25 is the successor of the LM 22 I think and they're available for our stock rims (though I don't think for appropriate 17 rims). Didn't drive with them in the snow yet (since we have none so far), but they feel very good at low temperatures so far. Test results on snow and ice are very good from what I have seen.
most places sell the LM22s and the LM25s at the same price except Bridgestone/Firestone outlets where the LM25s will have a slightly higher starting retail price
both will be an available product line (I called Bridgestone about this when I was researching)
performance wise they should be almost identical but the LM22s will be a bit better in snow and the LM25s will be a bit better in rain (unidirectional)...probably unnoticeable
Both use the same technologies but because the LM25 is unidirectional you can not rotate the tires...so their lifespan will be decreased
I've read that average lifespan for decent winter tires is only 15,000 miles, yikes since the 18inch high end winter tires cost a grand
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I am looking at either the dunlop graspic DS-2, the pirelli winter 210 snowsport, or the blizzak ws-50.
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Gordon
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
performance wise they should be almost identical but the LM22s will be a bit better in snow and the LM25s will be a bit better in rain (unidirectional)...probably unnoticeable
Originally Posted by truemagellen
Both use the same technologies but because the LM25 is unidirectional you can not rotate the tires...so their lifespan will be decreased
Originally Posted by truemagellen
I've read that average lifespan for decent winter tires is only 15,000 miles, yikes since the 18inch high end winter tires cost a grand
Last edited by AQA101; 12-01-2004 at 05:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
actually the LM25s are not the successors to the LM22s but rather a the Unidirectional version of the LM22s
OK, I need to go verify, but I think my LM-22s are directional! BTW, they were great last year and so far so good with one decent snowfall this winter.
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Originally Posted by red_rx8_red_int
OK, I need to go verify, but I think my LM-22s are directional! BTW, they were great last year and so far so good with one decent snowfall this winter.
so I'm confused but really I don't care I'm happy with my LM-22s
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Originally Posted by titaniumZoomZoom
Spoke with someone from TireRack and was recommended the Dunlop M3 in a 225/50/17 size.
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According to the Bridgestone homepage, LM 22s are unidirectional. But then I guess many high performance winter tires are unidirectional.
Edit: Also on the hp, they call the LM 25 the "new generation" of the LM 22 with increased performance on ice and wet roads.
Edit: Also on the hp, they call the LM 25 the "new generation" of the LM 22 with increased performance on ice and wet roads.
Last edited by AQA101; 12-02-2004 at 12:28 AM.
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I bought the Hankook WS300 this year. I am impressed after a 85 mile stretch of loose snow and ice over the Thanksgiving holiday. I had the LM-22 on my GTI and I would say they are very close with the Hankook giving up a little more traction on the dry stuff.
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I have the Dunlop Graspics on 17's
225-50-17
Just did a comparo between my RX8 with snows and my Protege5 with the all season Dunlops
Snow is coming down hard in the western Twin Cities right now. The 8' actually felt more planted than my P5 - go figure.
I have had the WS50's and LM22's on my Miata and so far (albeit a short time frame) the Graspics seem to do the job just as well as the LM22's. No need to drive like a maniac in a Minnesota winter, so justifying the LM22 on 17's or 18's wasn't even necessary.
I vote Graspics
225-50-17
Just did a comparo between my RX8 with snows and my Protege5 with the all season Dunlops
Snow is coming down hard in the western Twin Cities right now. The 8' actually felt more planted than my P5 - go figure.
I have had the WS50's and LM22's on my Miata and so far (albeit a short time frame) the Graspics seem to do the job just as well as the LM22's. No need to drive like a maniac in a Minnesota winter, so justifying the LM22 on 17's or 18's wasn't even necessary.
I vote Graspics
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Originally Posted by Dark8
I bought the Hankook WS300 this year. I am impressed after a 85 mile stretch of loose snow and ice over the Thanksgiving holiday. I had the LM-22 on my GTI and I would say they are very close with the Hankook giving up a little more traction on the dry stuff.
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