Effects of Wheel Size/Weight on Performance
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Hey Guys,
Cant really help with some of the other links being broken but here is a list of the new links to the Miata forums concerning wheel weight.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=40082
Cant really help with some of the other links being broken but here is a list of the new links to the Miata forums concerning wheel weight.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=40082
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Currently i have a staggered setup with heavy rims running 9.5 on the rears and i believe 8.5 or 9 on the front. Im looking to switch to some rotas that would be 9.5 all the way around with a +30 offset. Would it be beneficial to switch? Its a street car and i do about 6-8 autox a year. With the staggered setup the car does not handle like it use to but im worried by switching to fat rims on all 4's i wont be helping...
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You guys obviously have everything wrong, It is 100% possible to add wheel weight AND improve your performance without spending extra money on horsepower modifications.
The only thing you will have to do is take the race vertical, preferably STRAIGHT OFF A CLIFF...
Your car will do it's;
Fastest 0-60 time
Quickest quarter mile
Quickest half mile
Quickest mile (Grand Canyon)
AND possibly reach terminal velocity, where it will no longer go faster...
...But only once.
Meaning you will probably have to spend more money getting a new car, if you survive the inevitable meeting with the ground.
"It's no the fall that kills you, but the sudden stop at the end" (I don't know who originally stated that quote)
The only thing you will have to do is take the race vertical, preferably STRAIGHT OFF A CLIFF...
Your car will do it's;
Fastest 0-60 time
Quickest quarter mile
Quickest half mile
Quickest mile (Grand Canyon)
AND possibly reach terminal velocity, where it will no longer go faster...
...But only once.
Meaning you will probably have to spend more money getting a new car, if you survive the inevitable meeting with the ground.
"It's no the fall that kills you, but the sudden stop at the end" (I don't know who originally stated that quote)
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I recently updated the orgy of unsprung weight links and decided to share it with a variety of forums. Feel free to keep, chuck, yell at, or do whatever you want with it. I figured since it took so long to gather all these damn links, it might be worthwhile sharing. Hopefully this won't offend anyone. Its just an orgy of available information for those interested in investigating it.
Articles
Size Matters
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~greghess/sizematters.pdf
Finding Free Power
http://www.nerocam.com/SCC_TAPnew.asp
Bicycles and Unsprung Weight
http://www.softride.com/bike/cornering.pdf
Fixing the 350Z: Why Lawyers Want Everyone to Run Staggered Setups
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr.../0404scc_350z/
Picking the Right Wheels For You
http://www.grmotorsports.com/wheels.html
Big Wheels, Big Trouble?
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/15/pf/autos/w...day_big_wheels/
Wheel Weights Can Effect Your Vehicles Show and Go
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...el_weights.jsp
The Danger of Dubs
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Featu...rticleId=104526
Automobile Ride, Handling, and Suspension Design
http://www.rqriley.com/suspensn.htm
Threads
17 vs 18, Drag Strip Comparison
http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.ph...0&#entry541857
How much does wheel weight really matter?
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthrea...rung+and+weight
Are 18" wheels and tires bling bling or a performance advantage?
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthrea...heel+and+weight
How much will 17" wheels slow you down
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...gi/topic/7/303?
Effect of Lighter Wheels?
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...gi/topic/7/301?
Bigger Wheels and Tires?
http://www.sccaforums.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic/7/863#000004
Rotational Advice
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...=3;t=002795;p=1
If larger wheels are bad...why do sports cars have them?...
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=005169
Wheel Weight, Who Cares?
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=007412
1 Lb of unsprung weight =?? Static weight
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....f=3;t=006390;p=
Wheel Weights....Can They Make a Difference?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010655#000000
33.5 lbs/Corner Too Heavy??
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010570#000002
Don't Small Wheels Mean Heavier Tires?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010479#000009
Whats With Huge Wheels?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010436#000002
18" Wheels too big? Take a Look!
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=008412#000031
I'm Finally Completely Convinced About Lighter Wheels and Tires
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010379#000000
Do Wider Tires REALLY Provide More Traction?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010206#000034
Unsprung Weight 101
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010206#000034
Unsprung Weight Effects Performance?
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=008986
WO! The Joy of Lightweight Wheels!!!!
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010108#000033
0-60 simplified wheel physics and garfield's wheel test
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...3730#post279748
Spreadsheet blows lid off lightweight wheel debate!!!
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=14738
Lightweight Wheels
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...unsprung+weight
In Defense of 17's
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...unsprung+weight
16 or 17 Inch Wheels?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...ht=wheel+weight
18 or 19 Inch Wheels?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...ht=wheel+weight
Effects of Wheel Size on Acceleration (TimeSlips)
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopi...t=1762&start=0
6tech Article
http://www.mazda6tech.com/index.php?option...id=16&Itemid=32
Wheel Weight and Performance
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?...der=asc&start=0
Some Wheel Weight Sites
http://www.wheelweights.net
http://www.wheelspecs.com
http://www.miata.net/garage/garagetires.html
Articles
Size Matters
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~greghess/sizematters.pdf
Finding Free Power
http://www.nerocam.com/SCC_TAPnew.asp
Bicycles and Unsprung Weight
http://www.softride.com/bike/cornering.pdf
Fixing the 350Z: Why Lawyers Want Everyone to Run Staggered Setups
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr.../0404scc_350z/
Picking the Right Wheels For You
http://www.grmotorsports.com/wheels.html
Big Wheels, Big Trouble?
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/15/pf/autos/w...day_big_wheels/
Wheel Weights Can Effect Your Vehicles Show and Go
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...el_weights.jsp
The Danger of Dubs
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Featu...rticleId=104526
Automobile Ride, Handling, and Suspension Design
http://www.rqriley.com/suspensn.htm
Threads
17 vs 18, Drag Strip Comparison
http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.ph...0&#entry541857
How much does wheel weight really matter?
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthrea...rung+and+weight
Are 18" wheels and tires bling bling or a performance advantage?
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthrea...heel+and+weight
How much will 17" wheels slow you down
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...gi/topic/7/303?
Effect of Lighter Wheels?
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...gi/topic/7/301?
Bigger Wheels and Tires?
http://www.sccaforums.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic/7/863#000004
Rotational Advice
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...=3;t=002795;p=1
If larger wheels are bad...why do sports cars have them?...
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=005169
Wheel Weight, Who Cares?
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=007412
1 Lb of unsprung weight =?? Static weight
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....f=3;t=006390;p=
Wheel Weights....Can They Make a Difference?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010655#000000
33.5 lbs/Corner Too Heavy??
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010570#000002
Don't Small Wheels Mean Heavier Tires?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010479#000009
Whats With Huge Wheels?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010436#000002
18" Wheels too big? Take a Look!
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=008412#000031
I'm Finally Completely Convinced About Lighter Wheels and Tires
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010379#000000
Do Wider Tires REALLY Provide More Traction?
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010206#000034
Unsprung Weight 101
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010206#000034
Unsprung Weight Effects Performance?
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb....ic;f=3;t=008986
WO! The Joy of Lightweight Wheels!!!!
http://forum.miata.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?...t=010108#000033
0-60 simplified wheel physics and garfield's wheel test
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...3730#post279748
Spreadsheet blows lid off lightweight wheel debate!!!
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=14738
Lightweight Wheels
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...unsprung+weight
In Defense of 17's
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...unsprung+weight
16 or 17 Inch Wheels?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...ht=wheel+weight
18 or 19 Inch Wheels?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?...ht=wheel+weight
Effects of Wheel Size on Acceleration (TimeSlips)
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopi...t=1762&start=0
6tech Article
http://www.mazda6tech.com/index.php?option...id=16&Itemid=32
Wheel Weight and Performance
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?...der=asc&start=0
Some Wheel Weight Sites
http://www.wheelweights.net
http://www.wheelspecs.com
http://www.miata.net/garage/garagetires.html
Bump..
So much information here. Why is this such a complicated process. Ha ha got some reading to do.
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Originally Posted by pointme2thetrack
If you want power and don't care about extra weight the best thing you can do is sell your 8 and buy a 370Z
If you want power and don't care about extra weight the best thing you can do is sell your 8 and buy a 370Z
Ahh, that Nissan. That car feels so heavy I think of it as the first sports car in history with a 60/50 weight distribution.
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appears that half or more of the links on the first page are now dead.. Great sticky post but kind of obsolete. Someone may want to make a new version of this thread?
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Currently i have a staggered setup with heavy rims running 9.5 on the rears and i believe 8.5 or 9 on the front. Im looking to switch to some rotas that would be 9.5 all the way around with a +30 offset. Would it be beneficial to switch? Its a street car and i do about 6-8 autox a year. With the staggered setup the car does not handle like it use to but im worried by switching to fat rims on all 4's i wont be helping...
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Wait for weight?
If you want power and don't care about extra weight the best thing you can do is sell your 8 and buy a battleship...oh wait, you said that already.
Ahh, that Nissan. That car feels so heavy I think of it as the first sports car in history with a 60/50 weight distribution.
Ahh, that Nissan. That car feels so heavy I think of it as the first sports car in history with a 60/50 weight distribution.
I think the current model retro american muscle cars are not much better.
Seriously, I recently test drove an RX-8 and now I want one to replace my aging 1999 BMW M3. It felt much lighter and nimbler than my M3. I went silly fast on the test drive on a twisty section and the RX-8 was not even breaking a sweat.
I am exited to put on my snow tires in a month or so. Why? Because the wheels and tires for my snows are much lighter than my summer setup and it does make a huge difference. Too bad the snow tires do not have great dry traction and would disintegrate if I really tried to use it.
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I recently aquired an RX8 Automatic (imported) I am trying to find out what the max wheel size is that can be fitted. I know that it can take 19" rims but what is the max width, front and rear. I have spoken with Mazda Uk, but because it is an import they are having to get a reply from Japan and that is taking time. Anyone know the answer.
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