i think you might have confused kane with chrism

beers

 

I do like the Front Aluminum Under Panel but as stated a couple of time, it is very expensive

 

If you do the aluminum underpanel #1 it should go past the oil pan and it could be incorporated with #2 (Front Ladder Brace 4 Point ). There seems to be interest in the aluminum underpanel but unless it has more functional value it would be a hard sale, if it went past the oil pan like the beat rush http://www.therpmstore.com/popup_ima...25grqnum1ulc74 , it would be more of a functional upgrade. The beat rush aluminum under panel only goes under the oil pan but it does not offer any additional bracing, they just claim improved air flow, cooling and down force.

Even if you dont include the front ladder brace with a lengthened underpanel they would just need to be compatable.

Beat rush is getting about $200 for the small aluminum under panel but I would rather spend $450-500 for a complete aluminum underpanel (front bumper past oil pan).

 

Update: Price Lowered on the 4 Point Strut Bar to MSRP of $275 without Master Cylinder Brace

With Master Cylinder Brace it would be MSRP of $315

 

All of your feedback is being forwarded to the R&D Team and are being taken into consideration.

 

Well we are going to have a prototype and we will have to have an independent tester for all of the above products.


So Rest assured the products won't go into production if I and the tester do not feel a benefit to be had.

We here at Fluid all compete in autocrosses, so we will be putting this to the test.

 

Can we get a mod to change the poll price of the 4 Point Strut to MSRP $315 please

 

Thats a big price drop, $315 - 10% and free shipping for a 4 point strut bar with master cylinder brace makes it a very appealling piece.

 

I'm not voting on anything because I wouldn't consider buying it just yet but it is definitely nice to have the option of that Front Aluminum Under Panel.

 

I believe in fair pricing.....I am 100% on the 4-point with pricing like that.

 

$315 is a lot more tempting.

think of it this way. you'll probably sell a good deal of them, so your margins have to be less.

also, rx8strakes floods ebay with their products. are you doing the same? i know they make a lot of their money off ebay. if you arent, i'd check into it, you might reach another demographic. instead of the enthusiast demographic, you might reach the ricerboy demographic. but lol, it shouldnt matter to you. you'll be moving product.

 

One thing we cannot do is Ebay, it destroys a product image and we are not allowed nor do we believe in it.

I tend to agree with getting the ricer boy demographic which leads to our next major launch demographic.

Tiered Sponsorship levels for all different forms of competition.

Car Shows
Local Meets
Autocrossing
Track Events
Daily Drivers

All pushing Fluid Motorsports on an National and International Scale, creating a massive network of enthusiasts for all kinds of car owners, not just RX-8 owners.

Stay Tuned

 

^that's pretty cool. Nice move.

+1 on the 4point strut bar price. Sorry if this has been discussed already but i don't think i've ever seen a cylinder brace w/a four point strut. Any pic's by chance?

 

Not yet...

But you can expect pics soon

 

This ebay thing is off topic so this will be my only post on the subject.

The reason ebay can destroy a product image is that many of the products are not backed by a real business/shop and have no R&D behind them. Ebay does a great job with advertisment and is a great way to move product and increase a business/products visability. I sell a complete line of non-automotive products on ebay and they move well and reach customers who would not otherwise buy on-line. The product image is not effected in anyway. If you are not allowed then discusion over.

Love the idea of many of the bracing products but for many cost will become an issue. You might want to address what makes your products a better value then the autoexe kit (about $650) or the mazdatrix version $350. Beat rush also has some products but they are priced substantially more.

 

any response to this opinion?

 

i dont think putting your product on ebay will "destroy your image." you can find volks on ebay.. does that destroy their image? granted, its not rays itself selling them, its through a reseller. anyway..

why are you not allowed to use ebay?

 

Plausible, but I think it would help with traingulating the strut tower brace and help stiffen the front subframe

 

They don't want the lowest bidder atmosphere to be started, they want a niche market where part whoring and undercutting is not occurring. Better for dealers and Manufactures both. If I cannot move a product at a decent profit I won't carry it. Hence they lose dealers, a very important part of the market and in the longrun the consumer looses out to becasue they won't know the product existed nor will it be pushed into the market like I do. It is impossible for them to get their name out to every single niche and community.

But enough about that


Correct, it is elminating chassis flex by creating the triangluar support in the front subframe and unibody area.

If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.

The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.

The benefits of GTSPEC over other brands for one is they use Military-Grade 6061 Aluminum and precision cut CNC steel brackets for super light weight but excellent stiffness where it is needed most.

 

Most all the stuff you have posted, I would buy. I'm setting my car up for time trials, auto-x, and to do some track days, and I know the benefits of each of the items listed, as I've had them installed on previous track cars

 

Just for your benefit, I want to make sure that you know that on eBay, you can make a "Buy It Now" only auction. Thus, there is no bidding. Great products though!

 

how thick is the undertray and will it cover the oil pan? I may be interested if it can serve as a mild skidplate for road rally and rallycross, though honestly, $425 is pretty expensive for me.

 

Agree with that!

 

If you need a tester for this I'll do it Im fabbing up my own fenders anyway so maybe by the time im finished you might ahve a set of prototypes...

 

I tend to disagree the two will be of value for comparison. The 8's suspension pick-up points are tied directly into the front crossmember which is bolted and secured to the unibody. Subaru's run with McPherson struts which means the strut is attached to the unibody near the fender and is itself a suspension arm pick-up point. I'm not completely sure of how the 350z's multilink is arranged, but judging from picks i believe the upper a-arm is tied into the unibody directly.