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Old 04-04-2012, 07:18 PM
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Inner Wear/alignment help

These are my rear tires and I had them for about a year now and they are bald like to the point where it is not safe. They have about 6 or 7,000 miles on them. I don't drive hard, or take my car to the track. Mostly drive to college and work. Weird thing is the front two tires are just fine they have plenty of life on them. I bought my car used with only 31,000 miles and now my car has 48,000. It is an 2006. I just bought 4 brand new tires continental dws and I'm wondering if it could be my alignment or something else. I don't want to keep buying two new tires every year







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Have your alignment checked. However, this problem is often times the result if driving around with the tcs off and a heavy foot.
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Those groves are made from burnouts. The Yokohama Envigor doesn't wear those 3 groves like that.

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If you have too much rear toe, this can happen. When was it last aligned?
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That looks like all season or snow tires driven hard Lead foot?

Toe problems will wear the edges of the tires...not the center
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Originally Posted by godesshunter
Have your alignment checked. However, this problem is often times the result if driving around with the tcs off and a heavy foot.
:/ well I don't think I have a heavy foot and I have Tcs on. Sucks Though who ever had it before me had the same problem because the tires on the rear were almost all the way bald. I don't even know how to burn out ha
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Toe problems will wear the edges of the tires...not the center
This isn't true. Too much toe will affect the whole contact patch. The contact patch is determined by the camber settings.
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If you have too much rear toe, this can happen. When was it last aligned?
Not sure because who ever had it before me had the same problem, but I am going to get it aligned once I get the new tires on it.
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^ agreed.

If it's not an alignment issue, it can also be a suspension issue, or the tires simply do not have a high tread life at all. It does look like the driver's side tire has significantly worn faster than the left. Has the car ever been in an accident?
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:/ well I don't think I have a heavy foot and I have Tcs on. Sucks Though who ever had it before me had the same problem because the tires on the rear were almost all the way bald. I don't even know how to burn out ha
Perhaps you let a friend borrow the car once?
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Originally Posted by LifeAfterRx8
^ agreed.

If it's not an alignment issue, it can also be a suspension issue, or the tires simply do not have a high tread life at all. It does look like the driver's side tire has significantly worn faster than the left. Has the car ever been in an accident?
I believe the OP said they are the same tires front and rear, so I think the treadwear is the same.

OP, do both the front and rear tires have the same miles on them?
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Originally Posted by LifeAfterRx8
^ agreed.

If it's not an alignment issue, it can also be a suspension issue, or the tires simply do not have a high tread life at all. It does look like the driver's side tire has significantly worn faster than the left. Has the car ever been in an accident?
Nope never been in a accident :/
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Originally Posted by godesshunter
Perhaps you let a friend borrow the car once?
I only drive it no one else :/
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Originally Posted by JCrane82
I believe the OP said they are the same tires front and rear, so I think the treadwear is the same.

OP, do both the front and rear tires have the same miles on them?
Well the front tires are different actually. The two front tires are dunlop and they have a little bit of life on them, but way better life then the rear tires. No the front tires have more miles and lasted much longer than the rear tires.
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Were all 4 tires new when you bought the car? 7000 miles is low even for a UHP tire (the envigor is not) on the 8 with your driving habits. You should easily see 15-20k with that tire.

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Originally Posted by TacoMan
Well the front tires are different actually. The two front tires are dunlop and they have a little bit of life on them, but way better life then the rear tires. No the front tires have more miles and lasted much longer than the rear tires.
Tire wear is dependent on many things. If front and rears were common, then you could question your alignment. Since you have different front tires, it could be the wear rating. If you post brand and model of front and rear it would give everyone a much better idea to why you are experiencing different wear. If you fronts are UTQG 400 and rears are UTQG 200, then this is definately possible based on driving conditions. More information is needed before you can point to a single cause.
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Originally Posted by godesshunter
Were all 4 tires new when you bought the car? 7000 miles is low even for a UHP tire (the envigor is not) on the 8 with your driving habits. You should easily see 15-20k with that tire.

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Occasionally I redline it, but not often. Do you think it could be the suspension too? Or will the alignment do the trick? All I know whoever had the car before me had the same problem too and sold it right away ha.
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Originally Posted by JCrane82
Tire wear is dependent on many things. If front and rears were common, then you could question your alignment. Since you have different front tires, it could be the wear rating. If you post brand and model of front and rear it would give everyone a much better idea to why you are experiencing different wear. If you fronts are UTQG 400 and rears are UTQG 200, then this is definately possible based on driving conditions. More information is needed before you can point to a single cause.
The two rear are Yokohama Envigor 225/45-18
The front two ill check in a bit.
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Originally Posted by godesshunter
Those groves are made from burnouts. The Yokohama Envigor doesn't wear those 3 groves like that.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Originally Posted by godesshunter
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Burnouts as in like used or fake? or me burning out on the road ha
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Originally Posted by TacoMan
The two rear are Yokohama Envigor 225/45-18
The front two ill check in a bit.
So you only replaced the front tires? Did the car come with the Yokohamas?
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Originally Posted by LifeAfterRx8
So you only replaced the front tires? Did the car come with the Yokohamas?
I replaced all 4 tires, but no I bought the yokohamas just for the rear and my picture shows what happened to them after a year.
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TacoMan,

My 07 6spd auto GT would set always set off the traction control when turning into traffic and floorboarding it; you know normal use.

The rear tires wore twice as fast as the front.

I aligned it with me in the car to get the rear camber from -2.1 to -1.65 and slight toe in.

The front alignment ended up at -1.7 camber and slight toe out.

With the next set of tires, Handkook Ventus V12, all positions wear evenly, and no traction trouble except under braking on the track.

There is slightly more front inside wear, but at 7k mile rotation, almost perfect wear.

So get rid of all that rear negative camber, and the rears will have more traction.

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Originally Posted by REDRX3RX8
TacoMan,

My 07 6spd auto GT would set always set off the traction control when turning into traffic and floorboarding it; you know normal use.

The rear tires wore twice as fast as the front.

I aligned it with me in the car to get the rear camber from -2.1 to -1.65 and slight toe in.

The front alignment ended up at -1.7 camber and slight toe out.

With the next set of tires, Handkook Ventus V12, all positions wear evenly, and no traction trouble except under braking on the track.

There is slightly more front inside wear, but at 7k mile rotation, almost perfect wear.

So get rid of all that rear negative camber, and the rears will have more traction.
Ahhh, nice let's hope it is that! I'm gonna get my tires aligned at Mazda, because I just got in the mail a coupon from Mazda to get my 4 wheel for $64.99 The place where I was going to get it aligned cost $69.99, so might as well save 5 dollars.
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Originally Posted by TacoMan
Ahhh, nice let's hope it is that! I'm gonna get my tires aligned at Mazda, because I just got in the mail a coupon from Mazda to get my 4 wheel for $64.99 The place where I was going to get it aligned cost $69.99, so might as well save 5 dollars.

There was an individual owned alignment shop that I trust to align for $60, but he was so OCD he wouldn't even let me hang around while he did it.

so, I found another mom and pop shop where the kid barely knew what he was doing, but I could help him make the call when he had trouble moving the suspension.

I aligned with him twice to get what I wanted at $130. a pop.

That -1.65 on the rear is the least neg that he could dial in.

Take it anywhere you want, but if you just tell them to align it, it might still have to much neg camber on the rear which is the main cause of that fast wear.
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What tire pressures are you running?


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