Hey im going to be getting some new Koni yellows soon and Im wondering what settings i should run them on, i dont autocross yet, i plan to in a year(even though im a auto 4-port 8) Pretty much i want them pretty stiff but my 8's a daily driver... i want good handling but i wouldnt mind being a Tad uncomfortable. Any help would be appreciated and thanks!

 

the issue is the rears as you cant adjust them with a turn of the wrist..

most run them up 25% from full soft. then adjust the fronts to suit.

good luck my friend.

 

yeah i remember reading the rears you can adjust unless you take them out again, so run the rear at 25% and the fronts at like 50%???

 

PM Jedi54, he has a good setup for the yellows

 

50% stiff (from full soft) up front.
25% stiff (from full soft) rear.

This is the setup I'm running with H-Tech springs. Read the DPE thread in the vendor forum which talks extensively about their testing of the Koni settings (when they were still in business). It's a good balance between performance and street use.

 

Never fear, Jedi is here!

The Konis are approximately 5 turns from one setting all the way to the other.
I recommend the rears be 1.0 - 1.25 turns from full soft
Fronts you can adjust in a few seconds so start soft and work your way up. Turn them all the way to full soft and start at .75 and go up a half turn until you find what suits you.

 

when i get mine ill run the front at 100 percent from full soft up front and 75 percent from full soft in rear..... we will see how long i like it for! lol

 

you're going to run FULL stiff on the front? That is VERY stiff, I only recommend people do that if they're headed to the track.

 

I have mine set at:

50% in rear
1 full turn from full soft in front

I started full soft up front but they seemed to be a bit harsher. Something to do with the softer rebound, perhaps? This has been my setup for the last 4 weeks but I will keep experimenting!

 

i like it stiff. :P however even i might turn it down from full stiff. but i want to try it

 

Doesn't sound like a good setting, the driven wheels should generally have the softer setting.

 

Sweet guys thanks Jedi for all the info and i cant wait to get these!!! these seem pretty amazing no?

 

 

i ve my rear on a 1 turn from stiff and i get a bottom out sound over small imperfections on the road is that normal for you guys also

 

jedi, i know we talked via pm about this, but just to make sure i'm understanding correctly b/c i'm hoping to install them next weekend!!...

REAR: 1-1.25 turns FROM full soft, out of 5 possible turns, seems pretty soft to me. i don't track or anything, don't get me wrong, but that just seems soft. if i went up to 50%, so about 2.5 turns from full soft, would that be pretty harsh?

i understand what you were saying about having the rears stiffer than the fronts, but overall it seems like pretty soft settings. am i understanding this backwards maybe? or maybe the "softer" settings of the konis still pretty stiff over stock...?

 

I know it seems weird to set them that soft but keep in mind that the Konis at FULL soft are stiffer then the OEM's.
These have the potential to be very stiff, after you get them in, throw the fronts on full stiff (just for fun) and your oem's will feel like you were riding on airbags.

Yeah, my rears (and Newcastles which I installed the same day) are both at about 1.25 turns FROM full soft. The cars are mainly street driven with the ocassional canyon runs and I find that it's a pretty good setting. I remember talking a lot with D.P.E. (before they closed) and that was what they ran on their RX-8 and what he recommended I use.
So far it's worked great but it really depends on what you want out of the car.

 

5 turns, your doing it wrong. The Koni sports go 2 1/2 rotations or about 900 degrees from stop to stop. If you are counting how many times you turn the shock by hand you are going to get different results from person to person, so this is not an accurate way to describe the adjustment procedure.

Btw the fast guys run them full stiff front and rear. And yes, I drive my car every day set that way.

 

yeah, but yours is a track car, not a fair comparison!

 

Its also a daily driver, complete with baby seat.

 

thanks for clarifying jedi...that makes sense.


so will someone clarify this 5 turns vs umm, not-5 turns? i guess i'll figure it out when i install them and put them somewhere between 25% and 50% FROM full soft, whatever # of turns that ends up being...

 

I think that the best way to do it is to turn the adjustment all the way to hard then turn it back all the way to soft, counting how many turns it takes, then turn it back towards hard 25% of the way from soft. For the front adjustment tool, I painted one of the points so that I could count the turns more easily.

With the stock springs, in my experience and I have been running these shocks for about 55thousand miles now, more than 25% stiffness over damps the spring rate and causes the wheels to bounce off the road when you hit potholes and bumps. This problem is more of an issue in Northern states where road conditions are not as manicured as the South. In Pennsylvania, I started having pretty serious traction problems with the shocks over stiffened.

If you have after market springs, a stiffer damping rate will probably better suit your stiffer springs. It is all about balancing the damping against the spring rate.

 

The adjustment range on Koni yellows is tad over 2 1/2 turns from end to end.

I have a question for those that have experience playing around with multiple settings in the rear.

When I first got these shocks a year ago, I set the rear ones exactly 3/4 turn from full soft. (~ 30%) It did something funny to the car; the rear of the car was extremely bouncy, as if the car was on a pogo stick. It was almost as if there was no rebound damping. So I set them at full stiff. The car now has a slightly stiff ride, but it did solve the issue.

Has anyone else experience something similar with the Koni yellows paired with the stock springs? Also, how durable are Koni's? am I causing premature wear on the shocks by setting the rear full stiff?

 

Thats what she said^^

 

Ive never had this problem man, try reinstalling them?

 

Gonna scribe to this thread as Koni's are coming in the spring time... I just want that extra bit of lowering they will do to the rear over the S-Techs on stock struts