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Old 01-04-2007 | 03:32 PM
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new front brakes?

i have about 38,000 miles and after my last check up was told my front brakes need to be changed. obviously mazda did a great job with the stock breaks, but has anyone gotten aftermarket brakes that perform better? i don't think i can afford brembo...
Old 01-04-2007 | 06:46 PM
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i have carbotech panther plus brake pads and they are awsome, only thing is they chew up the rotors and dust more than stock, but if you can get past that they are freakin awsome, on the track i was able to outbreak brand new CarreraS's w/ slicks, deff a good for the money
Old 01-05-2007 | 01:52 AM
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I have racingbrake 1-piece rotors + Hawk HPS pads. My rotors warped so I just wanted a good stock replacement, and these have been good so far. No noise, far less dust, slight improvement in braking feel, and the rotors stay shiny.
Old 01-05-2007 | 11:40 PM
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There are no brakes made better than stock. No manufacturer has proved it.

There are ones that way less and fade less on the race track but that's it.

Nothing you will see for street applications.
Old 01-07-2007 | 06:13 PM
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How about those heat dispensing discs? The ones with the grooves in them like these?

http://www.mazdatrix.com/8brakes2.htm

Are these any good?
Old 01-07-2007 | 06:44 PM
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Slotting or drilling rotors weakens the rotors and have been known to crack because of it.

The best recommendation from the majority is to stay with a solid rotor face.
Old 01-07-2007 | 06:52 PM
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It's also my understanding that slotted/drilled rotors are not slotted/drilled for heat dissipation but for gas dissipation. Naturally the incresed surface area/airflow through and around the grooves and slots will increase heat-related fade resistance, but that is not the primary reason for doing it. Keep in mind, too, that the increased surface area for cooling/gas relief = reduced surface area for pad-to-disc contact and may actually DECREASE braking performance, and improper chamfering of the holes and slots can do the cheese grater treatment on your pads (and increase the likelihood of stress risers in the modified areas causing cracking).

Actually, for street use, the primary reason for slotting and drilling is to make people look at your discs and go "ahhhhh".
Old 01-07-2007 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
There are no brakes made better than stock. No manufacturer has proved it.

There are ones that way less and fade less on the race track but that's it.

Nothing you will see for street applications.

I would define lighter, non-warping, more even pad wear, and more finess control at the limit as better
Old 01-07-2007 | 08:11 PM
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^^ I agree.....I have gone back to my stock front brakes for the winter....cause my snow tire setup wouldn't fit over my BBK...

The stock brakes are good...great even for a street car, but the Racing Brake kit has much better feel, are lighter....and the rotors wear like iron
Old 01-07-2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
... and the rotors wear like iron

lol, because they are iron, albeit very high strength iron
Old 01-07-2007 | 08:54 PM
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the stock pads you buy from the dealer comes with all new hardwares (clips and shims and anti-squeak grease) for a thorough install, i just put on a pair for the fronts on saturday, and is very pleased with the results so far

for street use, can't really beat what you get from the mazda factory brake pad kit.
Old 01-07-2007 | 08:56 PM
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actually the real reason i bought the stock brake pad kit is because i fubar'd my last brake pad install and had to destroy the old shims in order to remove the old pads
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
lol, because they are iron, albeit very high strength iron
Damn...I forgot the smiley again
Old 01-24-2007 | 12:35 PM
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Slotting or drilling rotors weakens the rotors and have been known to crack because of it.

The best recommendation from the majority is to stay with a solid rotor face.
This is not necessarily true. ALL motorcycle brakes are X-drilled and will out brake any car. If the rotors are of a quality manufacturer, then it should only help improve your braking--not the "bite" but will decrease the fading during hard braking.

Homemade slots and X-Drilling, sure. That will kill ya--literally. Go with a trusted manufacturer.

Does anyone know who makes the rotors for the RX7 store?
Old 01-24-2007 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Menace
This is not necessarily true. ALL motorcycle brakes are X-drilled and will out brake any car. If the rotors are of a quality manufacturer, then it should only help improve your braking--not the "bite" but will decrease the fading during hard braking.

Homemade slots and X-Drilling, sure. That will kill ya--literally. Go with a trusted manufacturer.

Does anyone know who makes the rotors for the RX7 store?
Motorcycles outbrake cars based on pure physics. It's much easier to stop a 700 pound object from 70mph than it is to stop a 3200 pound one. Check the brakes of any serious racecar and you'll find they aren't cross drilled. If cross drilling offers an advantage, you'd think they'd use them.
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Porsche must be completely clueless then ...
Old 01-24-2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
Motorcycles outbrake cars based on pure physics. It's much easier to stop a 700 pound object from 70mph than it is to stop a 3200 pound one. Check the brakes of any serious racecar and you'll find they aren't cross drilled. If cross drilling offers an advantage, you'd think they'd use them.
But you didn't mention that cars have 4 rotors and more tire surface...bikes only have 3 calipers on 3 rotors with much smaller tires. AND, the track on a bike is linear not on four corners...
Old 01-24-2007 | 07:41 PM
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"But you didn't mention that cars have 4 rotors and more tire surface...bikes only have 3 calipers on 3 rotors with much smaller tires. AND, the track on a bike is linear not on four corners..."


stop....just stop man........quit while ur ahead.........


a bike weighs 700 pounds and an rx8 weighs 3000 lbs.....are you kidding me bro


porsche, ferrari, lotus, lamborghini, aston matin, audi, for gods sake even hyundai uses drilled rotors.....and the beenefits are worth it, some ferraris and porsche even have optional Carbon Ceramic rotors. they r like a 5k option!....but for absolute RACE, NEVER see the street setup is slotted......case in point.....Super GT (formerly JGTC) race cars, etc etc etc
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