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Old 01-10-2011 | 12:08 PM
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OEM brake pad material

As the title says, what are the pads made out of. The reason I ask is I want to change to Carbotech (1521) pads but I understand they need clean rotors or similar material used prior. One website said OEM was the same as Carbotech but I wanted to varify.

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Old 01-10-2011 | 05:56 PM
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I am sure that they are semi-metallic with a possibility of having some ceramic in it. Either way, I wouldn't stress about it. If it makes you sleep better at night, rub some 150 grit sand paper on the rotors before you install the new pads. A must do is the bedding process though.
Old 01-17-2011 | 02:41 PM
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You'll be fine with the Carbotech pads, just bed them in according to instructions. I've used Carbotech pads as track pads on clean new rotors and used rotors with OEM material on them and never noticed any difference, but I always bedded them in properly.

Brake pad composition is Black Art/Science and knowing what's in them won't help you much. The OEM pads likely contain an organic matrix with carbon, iron, other metals (brass, copper, aluminum), limestone, silica, ceramics (metal oxides), kevlar or other fibers.

This from the Brake FAQ:
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"Ceramics" in brake pads is a bit of a marketing hype. Many brake pads have some ceramic compounds in the complex mixtures of various compounds that make up brake pads. As a result just about any brake pad company can make the claim that they have a ceramic pad. Ceramic compounds include a group of compounds, not just a single one, that can be added to modify the friction coefficient, thermal range, and quantity and color of dust. Supposedly, you could have a pad with good thermal stability, good bite, and light colored dust. Ceramic fibers are there to replace some of the metallic or orgainic fibers that reinforce the pad material although they don't replace all of it. I'm pretty sure the OEM has some ceramic in it. However, both the street performance pads I used on my previous car as well as my track pads are carbon kevlar ceramics and they dust like a **** and will squeal Beethoven's fifth symphony if you don't shim and grease their backs, and the track pads will damage my wheels and even paint if I don't clean off the dust.

Brake pad composition is a bit of black art as well as chemical science and engineering. Trying to get a pad that grabs consistently at -20F and 1600F, is quiet, relatively non-toxic, non-corrosive, easy on the rotors, and inexpensive is a bit of the holy grail. Pads are generally made up of fillers, binders, reinforcing fibers, and lubricants. Reinforcing fibers provide mechanical strength to the friction material and include, metals, kevlar, glass, and ceramic fibers, and formerly asbestos. Just some of the ingredients off the top of my mind in various pads not in any particular order: carbon/graphite, limestone, ceramic compounds (various metal oxides), iron, copper, brass, aluminum, zinc, glass, kevlar, epoxy, phenolic, and slicone resins, clay, silicates, proprietary compounds (secret), rubber, even cork and cashew dust.
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