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Old 08-19-2005 | 05:57 PM
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Question Questions on camber setup

Correct me if I'm wrong, is the traditional adj. camber plate not really applicable to our car as it has the wishbone setup instead of the struct?
So what can we do in order to adjust the camber on our car?

Secondly, what's the factory camber settings for the 18" wheel model?

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Old 08-19-2005 | 07:19 PM
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Old 08-19-2005 | 07:20 PM
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FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Specification (Unloaded Condition)
Standard suspension

Item Specification
Total toe-in Tire [Tolerance ±4 mm {0.15 in}] (mm {in}) 2 {0.08}
Rim inner (mm {in}) 1.2±2.5 {0.05±0.09}
degree 0°11'±21¢
Steering angle [Tolerance ±3°] Inner 38°41¢
Outer 33°15¢
Steering axis inclination (Reference value) 10°52¢
Camber

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the front fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
367¾376 {14.4¾14.8} -0°33¢
377¾386 {14.9¾15.1} -0°13¢
387¾396 {15.2¾15.5} 0°04¢
397¾406 {15.6¾15.9} 0°20¢
407¾416 {16.0¾16.3} 0°33¢

Caster

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the rear fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
361¾370 {14.2¾14.5} 6°31¢
371¾380 {14.6¾14.9} 6°18¢
381¾390 {15.0¾15.3} 6°06¢
391¾400 {15.4¾15.7} 5°53¢
401¾410 {15.8¾16.1} 5°40¢
Old 08-19-2005 | 07:22 PM
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Sport suspension

Item Specification
Total toe-in Tire [Tolerance ±4 mm {0.15 in}] (mm {in}) 2 {0.08}
Rim inner (mm {in}) 1.4±2.8 {0.06±0.11}
degree 0°11'±21¢
Steering angle [Tolerance ±3°] Inner 38°36¢
Outer 33°07¢
Steering axis inclination (Reference value) 11°02¢
Camber

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the front fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
361¾370 {14.2¾14.5} -0°45¢
371¾380 {14.6¾14.9} -0°25¢
381¾390 {15.0¾15.3} -0°06¢
391¾400 {15.4¾15.7} 0°11¢
401¾410 {15.8¾16.1} 0°26¢
Caster

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the rear fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
354¾363 {13.9¾14.2} 6°41¢
364¾373 {14.3¾14.6} 6°28¢
374¾383 {14.7¾15.0} 6°16¢
384¾393 {15.1¾15.4} 6°03¢
394¾403 {15.5¾15.8} 5°50¢
Old 08-19-2005 | 07:28 PM
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Camber Adjustment

CAUTION:

* Adjust the camber before adjusting the caster.

1. Loosen the fixing nut of the adjusting cam bolt (front lower arm front side).


2. Rotate the adjusting cam bolt in either direction to adjust the camber.



Vehicle height* Camber
367¾376 {14.4¾14.8} -0°33¢±1°
377¾386 {14.9¾15.1} -0°13¢±1°
387¾396 {15.2¾15.5} 0°04¢±1°
397¾406 {15.6¾15.9} 0°20¢±1°
407¾416 {16.0¾16.3} 0°33¢±1°
Sport suspension

Vehicle height* Camber
361¾370 {14.2¾14.5} -0°45¢±1°
371¾380 {14.6¾14.9} -0°25¢±1°
381¾390 {15.0¾15.3} -0°06¢±1°
391¾400 {15.4¾15.7} 0°11¢±1°
401¾410 {15.8¾16.1} 0°26¢±1°

*
From the end of the front fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})

Left wheel Right wheel
Positive direction Counterclockwise Clockwise
Negative direction Clockwise Counterclockwise

NOTE:
* Refer to the figure for the adjusting angle per one graduation.



3. Tighten the nut.
* Tightening torque 117.7¾137.3 N·m {12.1¾14.0 kgf·m, 86.9¾101.2 ft·lbf}

4. Adjust the toe-in.
Attached Thumbnails Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster1.gif   Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster.gif   Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster2.gif  
Old 08-19-2005 | 07:29 PM
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REAR SUSPENSION
REAR WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Specification (Unloaded Vehicle)
Standard suspension

Item Specification
Total toe-in Tire [Tolerance ±4 mm {0.15 in}] (mm {in}) 3 {0.12}
Rim inner (mm {in}) 1.9±2.5 {0.075±0.098}
degree 0°16¢±20¢
Camber

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the rear fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
361¾370 {14.2¾14.5} -1°30¢
371¾380 {14.6¾14.9} -1°12¢
381¾390 {15.0¾15.3} -0°56¢
391¾400 {15.4¾15.7} -0°43¢
401¾410 {15.8¾16.1} -0°33¢
Sport suspension

Item Specification
Total toe-in Tire [Tolerance ±4 mm {0.15 in}] (mm {in}) 3 {0.12}
Rim inner (mm {in}) 2.1±2.8 {0.083±0.110}
degree 0°16¢±20¢
Camber

[Tolerance ±1°]
Vehicle height: From the end of the rear fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})
354¾363 {13.9¾14.2} -1°44¢
364¾373 {14.3¾14.6} -1°24¢
374¾383 {14.7¾15.0} -1°07¢
384¾393 {15.1¾15.4} -0°52¢
394¾403 {15.5¾15.8} -0°40¢
Old 08-19-2005 | 07:32 PM
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NOTE:

* Unloaded vehicle: Fuel tank is full. Engine coolant and engine oil are at specified level. Jack and tools are in designated position.
* Difference between the left and right camber angle is within 1° .

Camber Adjustment

1. Loosen the fixing nut of the adjusting cam bolt (rear lateral link (lower)).



2. Rotate the adjusting cam bolt in either direction to adjust the camber.



Vehicle height* Camber
361¾370 {14.2¾14.5} -1°30¢±1°
371¾380 {14.6¾14.9} -1°12¢±1°
381¾390 {15.0¾15.3} -0°56¢±1°
391¾400 {15.4¾15.7} -0°43¢±1°
401¾410 {15.8¾16.1} -0°33¢±1°
Sport suspension

Vehicle height* Camber
354¾363 {13.9¾14.2} -1°44¢±1°
364¾373 {14.3¾14.6} -1°24¢±1°
374¾383 {14.7¾15.0} -1°07¢±1°
384¾393 {15.1¾15.4} -0°52¢±1°
394¾403 {15.5¾15.8} -0°40¢±1°

* : From the end of the rear fender to the center of the wheel (mm {in})

Left wheel Right wheel
Positive direction Counterclockwise Clockwise
Negative direction Clockwise Counterclockwise

NOTE:
* Refer to the figure for the adjusting angle per one graduation.



3. Tighten the nut.
* Tightening torque 117.7¾137.3 N·m {12.1¾14.0 kgf·m, 86.9¾101.2 ft·lbf}
Attached Thumbnails Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster3.gif   Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster4.gif   Questions on camber setup-%40ebt-raster5.gif  
Old 08-19-2005 | 08:02 PM
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Boy, that's complicated! I doubt it can be done easily while at the track.
Old 08-19-2005 | 08:53 PM
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I noticed that adjustment bolt when i was installing my catback the other day. Glad to know I don't have to live with crazy camber when i decide to lower it! :D
Old 09-07-2006 | 11:45 AM
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can someone give me the standard setting simple and easy for our original car setting.
Old 09-07-2006 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryZZ
Boy, that's complicated! I doubt it can be done easily while at the track.
It's actually a very easy car to adjust, but do you generally carry an alignment rack with you at the track?

No car I know just allows you to slide between two settings. Changing the camber changes the caster and the toe, so they all relate to one another. You have to do it on an alignment rack or with some sort of accurate measurments. You don't just throw in a few clicks of camber and then take it out later.
Old 09-11-2006 | 10:54 AM
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Z44, that was very helpful; thanks. Could you possibly post the same info for the rear? I'm interested in toe specifically, but camber would be helpful as well.


Thanks!
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wow...very detail!
Old 09-11-2006 | 04:28 PM
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Oops, wasn't paying attention. I see you have the rear camber already, but I need to tweak the rear toe a bit as well, so instructions there would be super helpful. TIA.
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