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Does anyone know where to get a male threaded ball joint for the rear links? Megan seems to have one (here: https://meganracing.com//mrs-mz-1420) but they won't sell it separately nor will they even tell me if it's an off the self part, or something they have made.
There rear ball joint studs on the rear are in two sizes - if anyone knows a male threaded ball joint in either size I'd appreciate it.
is it a Megan arm; because there are no threaded heim joints on an OE arm. If it’s an OE arm then the entire arm needs to be replaced. Depending on which arm it is, the bushing can be replaced on some, but on some the bushing is bonded rather than pressed and again the arm has to be replaced. The exception would be aftermarket polyurethane bushings, which aren’t as good as the OE bushings
otherwise if it’s an aftermarket arm with heim joints then you just need to determine the size and thread type required. The heim joints are manufactured and sold by any number of sources.
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The part in the link - it has a separate male-threaded ball joint. That's the part I am after. Not the whole Megan part. I am only looking for a ball joint, threaded. Male. There are two sizes of tapered stud on the rear ball joints. It looks like they have a bumpsteer type stud for the smaller size, and a ball joint for the other (like in the photo).
Second question is if anyone knows a male threaded ball joint for both sizes of ball joint on the rear links. By my math, they are 10* tapers, but I haven't been able to find anything. Thought I would try here and see if anyone knew of anything.
Excuse me? I have a PhD and JD, My English is just fine, thank you.
How many times do I have to say it? I only want the ball joint. It's not a hard concept. Slow your roll there kid. It does not matter what it's for. I could use it to make pancakes and it won't change the fact that the ball joint is all that I am after.
Step 1. Click the link.
Step 2. Look at the photo. See the ball joint with the male threaded arm that goes into the tube end? That's what I want.
Is that the arm you have? Because you never stated what you have and what specifically you’re trying to do, only that you’re looking for something similar. So I’m not sure what you have or if you are trying to built your own arm with something similar. You seem to be dancing around the fire intentionally not being specific. Because how I go about helping you depends on understanding more about what you’re trying to achieve.
Since you brought it up; sometimes common sense and experience can far outweigh a degree or title. So forgive me if I don’t put much faith or value in those things, let alone care enough to mention my own. It could mean outstanding, it could be a lie hidden behind pride, vanity, and arrogance. People who use that as a shield tend to be more likely the latter it seems.
I want that specific ball joint. That is all that matters. There is no value in taking the hour to explain the design constraints and desired objectives. It's a ball joint. I want to know it's OEM intended application if there is one, or where to get one. Plain and simple.
ok, I was trying to help you and I can, but clearly you’d rather be emotionally overreactive and arrogant, so good luck. You might consider spending less time on social media. I did notice you edited your previous response to accuse of being xenophobic and immaturely get a few other kicks in that you missed the first go or two. Not only is it along with your other accusations a lie, you clearly have no idea what it really means or how ridiculous you look making that claim about me.
ok, I was trying to help you and I can, but clearly you’d rather be emotionally overreactive and arrogant, so good luck. You might consider spending less time on social media. I did notice you edited your previous response to accuse of being xenophobic and immaturely get a few other kicks in that you missed the first go or two. Not only is it along with your other accusations a lie, you clearly have no idea what it really means or how ridiculous you look making that claim about me.
exit, stage right ...
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Hey, I get it. 25,000 posts and this is your life. You're the poster child of a forum cliche. Enjoy the small pond.
And apparently, you can't tell time. Check the time stamp kid. Edited because I misspelled a word and the time stamp shows it was before your post. Nice try though.
You know nothing. You're just a forum warrior. If you did, you would have just answered the question. Instead, you have to play gate keeper and act like the supreme leader of all that is the internet. 25k posts is quite an accomplishment.
Your desire to be insulting and ramble on over more meaningless minutia is pointless. I neither value those things or any man’s opinion of me, but keep flagellating away as you see fit.
the thing is, you accused me of what you yourself have done
I didn't ask you for all the detailed specs. I don’t need to ask because I have both OE arms and aftermarket spherical arms (different brand) in my possession. I’ve also measured and honed some of the tapers myself for RX8 fitment.
What I was asking you is whether you need a replacement end specifically for a Megan control arm or whether you are trying to make your own arm. Because again, depending on which it was determines me not having to waste my time trying to address both. A Megan arm requires a specific part, a custom arm has flexibility to use a universal part. Does that make sense now?
However, you were dishonest from the beginning and still are, which I suspect Megan discerned it as readily as myself. That’s really what you’re upset about. You weren’t as cleverly cloaked in sheep’s clothing as you perceived yourself to be and have since openly revealed. The emperor without clothes.
That you even have to ask rather than are capable of handling it yourself says plenty in itself. Continuing to be intentionally nasty and wise in your own conceits accomplishes nothing, either against me or for you. I doubt any of that will be heard or known by you though; blind, deaf, naked, wretched, and powerless as you are, and also the world you both idolize and worship.
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All I want is a ball joint. I'm sorry that this forum is your life. But hey, I get it. Keep on ruling the internet forums. You are the epitome of the reason everyone hates internet forums. Everyone is the expert, but when it comes down to it they really know nothing and all they have are keyboard muscles. You don't know the ball joint's OE application. You don't know a part number. You don't know anything useful here. Let the adults in the room speak because you have nothing to add. I'll even put $100 down that you can't come up with a part number. I'm not interested in your cobbled single sheer rod end death trap. Run a FEA on that and see what happens with an unacceptably low safety factor. I want a ball joint, not the crapper part you made.
I have better things to do with my life. Wash my hair. Squirt lemon juice in my eyes. Eat watch batteries.
Going full anti-social media twittard won’t help either. You may think you know English, but the response shows a complete lack of comprehension of it. I’m familiar with the taper and other aspects required of the ball joint needed to fit properly on the upright. So again, I don’t need those specs from you. 今分かったか?
Just as was explained along with reason for my questions, I was trying to help and you not only refused to cooperate, but went full anti-social media emotionally triggered response mode as well ... and still are. Those kind of words are powerless to accomplish anything other than demonstrating the hatred and loathing of your own internal hell.
I never claimed to be an expert, I was only trying to help. This is what happens when you demand to be helped and will only accept help in the manner in which you demand it. Help yourself then. It will likely require more than spewing powerless words and hateful feelings though.
And how exactly am I keeping that from happening? If anything the thread getting bumped as I counter-reply back in spite of the intentionally caustic responses is exposing this quite a bit. I’d suggest his own posts might be the inhibiting factor.
Which otherwise he’s clearly just as adept at searching teh intrawebz as expressing his command of the English language as previously claimed
the ball joint end is fairly standard wrt taper, the taper length and end stud size are fairly easy to accommodate as well. So yeah, I’m aware of all those particulars and that’s not the determining factor as such. However, if it needs to be Megan specific as was inquired about, then the thread pitch and size of the male attachment end *must* match the arm. Where as a universal part can more readily be used for a custom fabricated arm where the two can be built to match.
And while you might argue that having the specific Megan part could serve the purpose of both, it’s not as easily obtained as a universal part as he found out. Which I then could have gone on to explain the relationship of Megan with the true manufacturer/supplier source as I came to understand it from past experience on the subject and how he might try tackling it from a different direction if that specific part only is required/desired.
I guess that’s not really necessary now since you came in and provided the help and information he needed instead.
Another point, the strength of either a ball joint or heim end are dependent on a multitude of factors. Each has their pro and con, but to simply claim a ball joint is superior or better than a heim joint demonstrates a lack of true understanding on the subject as a whole. Otherwise ball joints would be more prevalent on competition vehicles where those components are subject to much higher loading rather than the completely opposite current reality. Not that it was really relative to anything I was posting about though.
but if either one of you feel the need to school me further on the subject, I’m all for hearing about it.
or he could just say that perhaps it got a little out of hand and yeah, can you please help me in completely the opposite manner than it’s gone so far, and of course I would not being the petty kind of person to hold a grudge over this kind of stuff.
And how exactly am I keeping that from happening? If anything the thread getting bumped as I counter-reply back in spite of the intentionally caustic responses is exposing this quite a bit. I’d suggest his own posts might be the inhibiting factor.
Which otherwise he’s clearly just as adept at searching teh intrawebz as expressing his command of the English language as previously claimed
the ball joint end is fairly standard wrt taper, the taper length and end stud size are fairly easy to accommodate as well. So yeah, I’m aware of all those particulars and that’s not the determining factor as such. However, if it needs to be Megan specific as was inquired about, then the thread pitch and size of the male attachment end *must* match the arm. Where as a universal part can more readily be used for a custom fabricated arm where the two can be built to match.
And while you might argue that having the specific Megan part could serve the purpose of both, it’s not as easily obtained as a universal part as he found out. Which I then could have gone on to explain the relationship of Megan with the true manufacturer/supplier source as I came to understand it from past experience on the subject and how he might try tackling it from a different direction if that specific part only is required/desired.
I guess that’s not really necessary now since you came in and provided the help and information he needed instead.
Another point, the strength of either a ball joint or heim end are dependent on a multitude of factors. Each has their pro and con, but to simply claim a ball joint is superior or better than a heim joint demonstrates a lack of true understanding on the subject as a whole. Otherwise ball joints would be more prevalent on competition vehicles where those components are subject to much higher loading rather than the completely opposite current reality. Not that it was really relative to anything I was posting about though.
but if either one of you feel the need to school me further on the subject, I’m all for hearing about it.
or he could just say that perhaps it got a little out of hand and yeah, can you please help me in completely the opposite manner than it’s gone so far, and of course I would not being the petty kind of person to hold a grudge over this kind of stuff.
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I genuinely feel bad for this guy now.
You're not as smart as you think you are. Nice internet stalking btw. Those are to satisfy the forum's 10 post requirement to be able to make a thread. But yeah, nice "gotcha." Better luck next time.
Second, it's clear you are not a SME PhD in mechanical engineering. Seems you just repeat what you've read elsewhere. The reason it needs to be a ball joint is for a client's patent validation. I need to define the prior art to determine a defensible patent to an obviousness and doctrine of equivalence claim. Part of the prior art realm is what is commonly known to a PHOSITA within that field. There is a reason OE's don't use rod ends. If you want to pay me $650/hr I can explain.
I never should have even bothered with this forum. On the SME industry forums I'm involved with if anyone was told to stop by a mod and kept going (I can't recall this ever happening because they are adults and professionals) they would get booted. Your Dad already told you to stop, and now you're pissing in his corn flakes. You're the reason adults in the room have a disdain for forums.
Bean,
16. Do not deliberately inflate your post count, aka "post-whoring" by responding to a thread with multiple responses when one would do, or "contributing" to threads with a constant string of "me to" or "yeah!" type comments. This has been tolerated in the past but will be no longer. Deliberately inflating one's post count does nothing but waste server space and turn otherwise useful threads into impossible to navigate pages of junk. If you want to chit chat, go to the lounge where useless threads are the norm. :-)
I have gone through and deleted several of your useless posts, as it was obviously an attempt to bump your count.
Team and Bean,
2. Keep in mind that this is not a democracy. We have the right to refuse service to anyone. If you make yourself too big of a pain in the butt to the moderating community or otherwise are a bad influence on the forum, your access may be revoked.
3. This is not a flame war site, so please do not engage in such. No distinction will be made between the instigator and those who merely participate.
4. Personal attacks against other forum members will not be tolerated, nor will any type of "trolling" for a fight. This includes political attacks, slurs, or sneering at any viewpoint or political party.
6. Be respectful. This is harder to define, but will be moderated. An example would be disrespecting RX-8 owners who chose an automatic transmission over a manual, and "sneering" at them or acting like they're idiots for the choice they made. If a moderator believes you are being purposefully disrespectful to a fellow member, you will be notified. Bashing for the sake of bashing will not be tolerated.
Bean,
16. Do not deliberately inflate your post count, aka "post-whoring" by responding to a thread with multiple responses when one would do, or "contributing" to threads with a constant string of "me to" or "yeah!" type comments. This has been tolerated in the past but will be no longer. Deliberately inflating one's post count does nothing but waste server space and turn otherwise useful threads into impossible to navigate pages of junk. If you want to chit chat, go to the lounge where useless threads are the norm. :-)
I have gone through and deleted several of your useless posts, as it was obviously an attempt to bump your count.
Team and Bean,
2. Keep in mind that this is not a democracy. We have the right to refuse service to anyone. If you make yourself too big of a pain in the butt to the moderating community or otherwise are a bad influence on the forum, your access may be revoked.
3. This is not a flame war site, so please do not engage in such. No distinction will be made between the instigator and those who merely participate.
4. Personal attacks against other forum members will not be tolerated, nor will any type of "trolling" for a fight. This includes political attacks, slurs, or sneering at any viewpoint or political party.
6. Be respectful. This is harder to define, but will be moderated. An example would be disrespecting RX-8 owners who chose an automatic transmission over a manual, and "sneering" at them or acting like they're idiots for the choice they made. If a moderator believes you are being purposefully disrespectful to a fellow member, you will be notified. Bashing for the sake of bashing will not be tolerated.
Thanks for being the adult in the room. The only reason I posted in the photos section is because that is what the site's FAQ section for new members says to do. It says to post you need to have 10 posts, and can be done in the section I did it in. That's what I did, again, per the FAQs for new members. Like you pointed out, it just wastes server space and drives up pointless posts. I thought this was odd too, but that's what the site rules say.
I'm leaving the site now anyway since Team has shown all the reasons why forums can turn into time wastes. I've asked him to go away twice, he seems to not care. But thank you for the platform. I know these platforms do not run themselves and takes a lot of time. Be well.
Are you referring to this? https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...rs-read-first/ Creating threads:
- You can reply to posts anywhere in on the forum, but you can only create threads in the New Member subforum until you have 10 counted posts AND 30 days as a member. Then the restriction is lifted. This helps cut down on spam and scam, as well as flaming you might get for asking a "newbie" question in some of the more critical and harsh subforum. Please don't spam the forum trying to get your post count though, just participate normally! (i figured this would have been clear enough, however i will alter to make it clearer) 10 posts is easy enough, especially if you wander through the Multimedia subforum and comment on people's pictures or video.
16. Do not deliberately inflate your post count, aka "post-whoring" by responding to a thread with multiple responses when one would do, or "contributing" to threads with a constant string of "me to" or "yeah!" type comments. This has been tolerated in the past but will be no longer. Deliberately inflating one's post count does nothing but waste server space and turn otherwise useful threads into impossible to navigate pages of junk. If you want to chit chat, go to the lounge where useless threads are the norm. :-)
Essentially, you can do what you did, but you have to make them in some way shape or form, contributing to the forum. One or two word responses spread across multiple threads or even individual threads (outside of the lounges) are labelled as post whoring and will be deleted.
Since this occurred, i will add rule 16 into the creating threads info above. Hopefully this will help any other members from being confused.
all that typing, yet still refuses to answer those two questions.
ps: here’s the stalking link for anyone else who might want to be aware of their surroundings and what’s going on around them here:
the moral of the story is this; don’t fly too close to the sun with counterfeit feathered wings held on by wax.
how else do you explain someone who can resort to dishing it out like that, yet immediately melts down and falls from the sky after boldly flying so mightily high and free.
Likely nobody else recognized what he did that brought on the final death-match response and then just as likely also fell for the subsequent dishonest proclamation of being an innocent victim, but not me.
In summary; the truth pierces directly through the heart & soul, but the inability to accept the pain of it is why men choose darkness rather than light. Those strong enough to bare it will spiritually live on forever while the weak will die in their own eternal damnation.
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Imo there's about a handful of members who know this platform down to the very last bolt. Team being one of them. I felt post response #2 was genuine and intended to help and agree that more info was needed. Team can be a bit forward which I feel has the tendency to throw the unassuming off balance. Trick is too not become flustered, intimidated or threatened because he's actually very helpful.
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