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Old 04-25-2009 | 05:11 PM
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Suspension Arms interest.

So iv noticed a few of us are slammed down, and running wide wheels. Im particularly slammed with 17x10s and i need more adjust ability from stock settings. I also like to run auto x and road courses here soon and having more settings would be great.
So my plan is to get me some control arms, toe arms, and camber arms made in the near future. Instead of paying high dollar to JIC, I believe i can get some decent prices from local fabricators.
Now i will be getting a set for me personally, but i wanted to see who all would be interested in this arms. I could maybe look into a big group order so it would turn out cheaper. I do not know of prices yet, but i have been drawing up some things. If it works i will take my arms off and take them to place to have them fab'ed to spec.
Will post more info once i get time to talk to shop.

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Any updates if theres anyone who can customize the standard rear fitting for our RX8 control, toe, camber arms, I'm running 10 wide also and defenitely hate to spend $700 to JIC....
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this is an old post. I dropped my project so i didn't get anything done. Though i did finish my drawings on how it should of been done.
If you want info on how to go about this lmk ill gladly help you.
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Mazdaspeed Motorsports sells camber bushings for the front and modified arms for the rear
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Mazdaspeed Motorsports sells camber bushings for the front and modified arms for the rear

will this help to adjust the rim more inside and avoid my tires from rubbing against the body ?
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Originally Posted by WhiteSnowflake8
this is an old post. I dropped my project so i didn't get anything done. Though i did finish my drawings on how it should of been done.
If you want info on how to go about this lmk ill gladly help you.

oohh man, sorry to hear that, Did you ever manage to get the drawings to a Profesional Machine Shop ? and a Specialized Suspension Tech ?

If you don't mind , I will like to c ur drawings , PM me if possible.. I know some machine shops that can make miracles
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Mazdaspeed Motorsports sells camber bushings for the front and modified arms for the rear
not everyone has access to this parts so they look elsewhere.

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will this help to adjust the rim more inside and avoid my tires from rubbing against the body ?
nope if you want whole wheel to go into the wheel well you will need a different offset. Camber only adjusts angle of wheel.

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oohh man, sorry to hear that, Did you ever manage to get the drawings to a Profesional Machine Shop ? and a Specialized Suspension Tech ?

If you don't mind , I will like to c ur drawings , PM me if possible.. I know some machine shops that can make miracles
I have a machinist i was gonna use but since i dropped it i decide to just scrap it. There is no need to take to no "Specialized Suspension Tech" because this is a personal thing and im not really changing the whole suspension just the arms.

I cannot send you my drawings, but i could help you out on what you would need to get them going.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Mazdaspeed Motorsports sells camber bushings for the front and modified arms for the rear
This is good info! Must be a part of the motorsports program to order, no?



Megan racing makes the same parts JIC does! Yeah yeah, "ewww, megan" but you can't argue with that price
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The Megans won't really help me push the wheel inside, allthough it's a great upgrade for better adjustments
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Like i said, if you want offset wheel inwards more you gonna need a different wheels.

What offset are you running? What wheel? what tire size?
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I ran 18 x 10.5" wheels @ 43mm offset and only -1.5 deg rear camber lowered with no fender or control arm mods, but go ahead and do it wrong

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/new-rx-8-suspension-race-parts-mazdaspeedmotorsports-157592/

you are installing 20" diameter wheels/tires using the wrong offset, but don't want to spend $700 on JIC suspension parts, yeah right ...

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Old 09-14-2009 | 09:23 PM
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what size tire where you running though? and where did you see him installing those wheels?
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wait i saw his post. lol yeah offset is what he needs.
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I like the idea of defying what's standard... here's a little taste of how Rotary is done in Puerto Rico....and for many who kept saying it's impossible this and that.. remember Einstein would of never invented electricity if he kept believing it's impossible. Neither would have Christopher Columbus discover America nor would of Barrack Obama be President Today...

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No ofense to anyone, but let's be realistic, if someone wants to do something diferent than the rest , that person is clasified diferent. Autocross or Drifters don't have the same taste as people who dedicate for autoshow, nor the person who tracks vs street racers... everyone has a diferent view of their choices...

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Old 09-15-2009 | 12:10 PM
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Dude this aint an argument. If you want to push your wheel in the wheel well you gonna need a different offset. Plain and simple. adjustable arms only help with toe/camber. Only way to keep same wheel but have it moved inside is to get shorter axles, arms, but the work to do all that is pointless. should of read up on what wheels fit first.
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No problem I wasn't arguing, It was just a suggestion to look into more details to customize the fitting for wider rims.. everyone sticks with the normal, 18" 19" some even 20"s, 8.5, 9.5 and even 10 at the rear.

You're right offset is a BIG fact on fitment for any cars, so with that said opening a new topic of increasing aggresive rear wheels will call the attention in many people to have more options based on what they're looking for, of course we'd have to be realistic. Nobody wont be autocross they cars with slim tires 30 or 25's jaja lol.. let's be real.

Now we have to keep in mind that these adjustments will depend on the reason the owner want s the car for, autocross, drift, autoshow, daily drive etc.. not every owner has or feels the same way when driving their cars.

[B][I]You mentioned something about short axles & arms which was the first thing in mind to custom make at the machine shop, and at the end of this thread you state it's really pointless.....

How many aftermarket shorter axles, arms etc are there for the RX8 in the market ?

( YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP )

Note that the benefit if someone is able to custom make the camber, toe & control arms a bit shorter, people eventually will avoid to shave or roll their fenders, having them go on a 50/50 chance the person doing this don't mess up the body and end up paying $200-300 on repaint etc...

Plus how will the experience be of adding more negative, nobody will know until something or someone really does it.

What I'm saying is , I have some drawings also, I've reviewed with some suspension techs, and reviewed the drawings with a 32 year experienced machine shop expert who happens to be a Mazda Certified Tech which also owns an RX8.

Let's cut the gossips and go straight to the answers, it can be possible, and if it were actually manufactured properly and professionally by a well known fabricator

HOW MANY ARE TO BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THEM ....

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Old 09-15-2009 | 11:06 PM
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yes its possible, anything is. but is it worth it? no. having custom made things is not cheap. It cost a lot to produce few of them. There is R&D cause simple drawings that "master" people approve doesn't mean they will actually work like you mean to. Then there is testing, then approval and production, then sales. There is money involved in all this sections, and the biggest is TIME. why spend a year or two and a few hundred more for something that could simply be fixed by having the right offset?

It IS cheaper to roll fenders or even go wide body. It will look better and be more cost effective. But you can go your way and be the first and only to do that. Do PM me when your done id like to see it.
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I will defenitely keep you posted how this goes, eventually before tearing anything apart, I plan to document every detail with pictures to detect any errors.
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