enthegen

So I recently lowered my car on tein stechs and oem shocks. The car has been "preloaded" not really the correct term but thats what I had to search for when I was researching it. My question being is the back is not sitting right. The front looks like it should. The car has just had an alignment. I was wondering could the stock endlinks cause the rear to sit higher since they are longer and push the sway bar upwards? To me it looks like its putting way to much strain on those endlinks but maybe I dont know what im talking about.

I looked for some time on this and never really found what I was looking for. If someone would be so kind to enlighten. If this is a repost sorry I will delete thread if thats the case. Anyway any info would be appreciated.

TheWulf

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With a lowered suspension you should really get adjustable endlinks.

You should read this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/adjustable-endlinks-adjustment-question-167538/

RawrX8

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I have mine on S techs and mine sits fine. Ill get adjustable endlinks when tax return shows up.

Maybe your springs are sitting in the top caps wrong or are binding?

cjkim

did you swing back the bar to the correct position? though.. you did get an alignment and I would think whoever was doing it would notice it if you didn't. or the springs aren't seated correctly.
the endlinks themselves shouldn't have a different in height unless the bar is upside down

enthegen

Thanks that is good info I had read that but it doesnt really answer my question.

Yea the bar is correct the endlinks just have it pushed up in like a 45 degree angle up actually more than that.. from a horizontal position


I know I need adjustable ones or atleast shorter ones. Im just wondering if its possible for the endlinks to cause the rear not to sit down like it should. Since they are connected to the control arm then to the sway bar thats attached to the frame. It just looks like its pushing the car up. Im really just wondering if this could be a possible situation or not. I know the springs are seated correctly and are on front and rear properly.

justjim

The only way endlinks would have an effect on ride height is

A. You put ridiculously long (i.e. longer than stock by alot) endlinks on and the sway bar was shoved all the way up near vertical and the long endlinks were binding preventing the suspension control arm to which the endlinks was attached from its full movement. As a result the car would sit on the endlink and jammed sway bar instead of its springs.

B. You put the sway bar in upside down and the bar and/or endlinks are hitting something they not supposed to preventing full suspension travel. See post #2 pics in this link for an example of B. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ht=Racing+beat

C. You have adjustable endlinks and one side is longer than the other which preloads the sway bar. In this instance ONE SIDE of the car will be higher than the other.

If you have the OEM endlinks on the OEM bar and you lowered the car with aftermarket springs the endlinks won't affect ride height, although the sway bar angle at rest may no longer be optimum.

I believe your problem lies with the incorrect installation of the aftermarket springs. What are you referring to that has been preloaded?

enthegen

Well I dont believe the springs are installed incorrectly. I have gone through that first thing. The sway bar was also not removed so I know its not on upside down. I have stock endlinks and it just looks like where you stated "As a result the car would sit on the endlink and jammed sway bar instead of its springs."

Im hope new endlinks fix it but the back seems to high. I dont have exact measurements at the current moment. However I can say there is about 1 finger gap in the front and 2 1/2 finger gap in the rear.

As far as preloading I was referring to where you keep the control arm bolt loose then sit the car down on its own weight then retighten the control arm bolts back up.

justjim

If you still have the OEM sway bar with OEM endllinks and OEM shocks with aftermarket springs that just sit a little lower I don't see how the sway bar or its endlinks can affect the ride height. Remember the OEM spring, bar, and endlink setup is designed to move through the entire range of motion of the suspension. All you have done is drop the car a bit, to a position it would sit with the OEM equipment if you had, say 4 people, in the car, which the OEM setup is entirely capable of dealing with without problems. Something else is going on here besides the sway bar and endlinks in my opinion. I still vote for incorrect installation of the springs. I will be curious to see what the problem turns out to be.

enthegen

Thank you that answered my question fully and completely. I dont think installation is incorrect. It was done by an authorized tein dealer. I also double checked it to be sure everything looks right.



here it is. the front is about 1/2" lower now than in this picture. the back however have not changed. Does this look correct? Or am I just crazy? This is stock tire size.

cjkim

how long ago was it installed?
were they new springs?

Razz1

Measure the frame height from the ground.

Remember the wheel well designs cause an optical illusion of height.

enthegen

its been installed around a week and a half. Brand new springs.

I will measure the height when I get home. Should I measure from the center of the wheel to the fender or ground to fender?

enthegen

Well I measured from center of the wheel to fender. The front was 13" and the driver side rear was 14" Passenger side rear 15".. i dunno.