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11-28-2006, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scsi
You are missing the point of this thread. It is not about driving, it is not about what the best mod is. It is about sway bars, read the title. If you have nothing to say about sway bars combined with zeal coilovers, or zeal coilovers alone, then why did you post in the first place? Why pick this thread out of the thousands on this site about sway bars and coilovers to preach in? I think we all agree that driving skill is the most important. I think we all agree tires are more important than sway bars. Do you have anything to contribute that is relevant to THIS thread?
11-29-2006, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
I had driven plenty of RX-8 with Teins and HKS suspension too, so who gives a crap? At least I had first hand experience with them.
This is pointless, the best mod to make the car handle better is tires, not sway bar, springs or shocks anyway. Take it out on the track and see who is faster, better than sitting here and waste time typing.
This is pointless, the best mod to make the car handle better is tires, not sway bar, springs or shocks anyway. Take it out on the track and see who is faster, better than sitting here and waste time typing.
11-29-2006, 05:48 PM
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I don't find the JIC's too stiff....even with the heavy RB sways......they are a bit much for around town and out with the wife...but that I can live with for the time i spend at the track....what we are talking about here.
It's pretty obvious if someone pushes the car at all that the stock suspension is too soft.
11-29-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by surgictube
Weren't you just talking about your disdain for stress causing performance upgrades? Stickier tires are only going to increase the strain on your suspension and subsequently increase body roll.. Modding your suspension to handle these loads is idle when you run really soft rubber, IMHO.
11-30-2006, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
You sure are high up on that soapbox on this one 
Careful you don't get a hypobarically induced haemorrage from your nasal orifice.......
Careful you don't get a hypobarically induced haemorrage from your nasal orifice.......
11-30-2006, 10:16 PM
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The problem is there is no 'best' sway bar. They are just metal bars you use to tune your car to your style of driving. Pretty hard to screw up as long as they fit right. The way I went about it is to start with a stock car, go to the track, try a mod, track, mod, track, mod, track. You figure what works for you and what does not over time. For the way you drive around the track you might want more oversteer, understeer, or to be neutral. Who knows?
12-03-2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
I don't know much about the Zeals...one of my friends has them on his car and he likes them??
No AutoX or track days yet - at least not until next year, but the Olympic Pennisula backroads leave the 8 firmly planted. The limitation now is my front seat and harness.
12-03-2006, 01:12 AM
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ok well i was looking at the kw's and noticed that i can adjust the rebound and compression dampening... plus they are 14 way adjustable....would these not be the superior coilover... i mean i know zeals are insane but so far in this thread people say zeals are not ment for the track
12-03-2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by whoneedspistons
can some one xplain the spring rate and what they effect??
that is just odd.
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12-03-2006, 01:19 AM
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i am not sure what you mean swoop???? i am curious what the difference driving performance between the two rates given... so i can have an idea of a range that i want to be in....
on a side note when are the flrx8club meeting up... more like when are you going to be there
on a side note when are the flrx8club meeting up... more like when are you going to be there
12-03-2006, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by whoneedspistons
i am not sure what you mean swoop???? i am curious what the difference driving performance between the two rates given... so i can have an idea of a range that i want to be in....
on a side note when are the flrx8club meeting up... more like when are you going to be there
on a side note when are the flrx8club meeting up... more like when are you going to be there
you have your xxxs and ooos crossed up..
send me a pm and i will try to help..
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12-07-2006, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
Sure, upgrades are necessary as you go faster, but it is pointless on newer drivers. If you can't push it fast stock, nothing is going to help you.
"If you can't push it fast stock, nothing it going to help" Aww, there's hope for you yet.. Maybe you should consider some driving instruction as well!
So anyways, back to the topic.. any more personal experiences/recommendations of different sway bar setups on the RX-8 and subsequent advantages/disadvantages? I'm putting on stickier tires soon and am trying to decide on which sway bars to get.. I'm planning on getting mazdaspeed strut tower bars, but other than that the car is stock.. It will be driven exclusively on the street, but given absolute hell in corners..
I notice the AP's are 3 setting adjustable and the Racing Beats don't appear to be.. are there any other sway bars for the RX-8 that are adjustable? If not, I may have to get the AP's..
12-07-2006, 07:09 AM
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Is that why my student blew by a Porsche 911 Turbo in his beat up 73 240Z?
Driving experience is subjective. What feels good doesnt mean it is fast. An old sports car will feel nicer than a lot of new sedans, but they are usually not faster.
Yes I cant drive, please come train me. The multiple FTDs and track records in my slow "stock" cars must be fake.
Driving experience is subjective. What feels good doesnt mean it is fast. An old sports car will feel nicer than a lot of new sedans, but they are usually not faster.
Yes I cant drive, please come train me. The multiple FTDs and track records in my slow "stock" cars must be fake.
Originally Posted by surgictube
Try not being so opinionated.. I know how to drive well enough for suspension upgrades on a street car to make a noticeable difference, and whether or not other people asking about these mods have similar levels of driving experience, around a track, a beginner in an Enzo Ferrari will embarass Schumacher in a Geo Metro. If it's 80% driver, and 20% car, that 20% being more effective will make you faster regardless of how much you suck at driving and how arrogant you are despite your lack of driving talent.. hey, come to think of it, maybe you should look into a set of quality sways.
"If you can't push it fast stock, nothing it going to help" Aww, there's hope for you yet.. Maybe you should consider some driving instruction as well!
So anyways, back to the topic.. any more personal experiences/recommendations of different sway bar setups on the RX-8 and subsequent advantages/disadvantages? I'm putting on stickier tires soon and am trying to decide on which sway bars to get.. I'm planning on getting mazdaspeed strut tower bars, but other than that the car is stock.. It will be driven exclusively on the street, but given absolute hell in corners..
I notice the AP's are 3 setting adjustable and the Racing Beats don't appear to be.. are there any other sway bars for the RX-8 that are adjustable? If not, I may have to get the AP's..
"If you can't push it fast stock, nothing it going to help" Aww, there's hope for you yet.. Maybe you should consider some driving instruction as well!
So anyways, back to the topic.. any more personal experiences/recommendations of different sway bar setups on the RX-8 and subsequent advantages/disadvantages? I'm putting on stickier tires soon and am trying to decide on which sway bars to get.. I'm planning on getting mazdaspeed strut tower bars, but other than that the car is stock.. It will be driven exclusively on the street, but given absolute hell in corners..
I notice the AP's are 3 setting adjustable and the Racing Beats don't appear to be.. are there any other sway bars for the RX-8 that are adjustable? If not, I may have to get the AP's..
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