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Atilla 05-22-2009 10:16 AM

^half the thread was two people arguing a similar point - good read though. Team summed up what i think most of us would like to achieve - maximum width w/maximum grip to achieve full functionality.

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Atilla (Post 3033939)
^half the thread was two people arguing a similar point - good read though. Team summed up what i think most of us would like to achieve - maximum width w/maximum grip to achieve full functionality.

Oh, I meant a good read for the poster looking for 18x9.5 +25 255/35 rear because he had a similar yet much more aggressive setup.

On that note though, we've got to remember that when reading Team's posts, we're reading the posts of someone who actually competitively autox'd his car, that being the primarily reason. Personally, I am willing to sacrifice a small amount of performance - as long as handling characteristics are not destroyed and I can still enjoy my car at a full speed level, I'll be happy with my street wheel/tire setup.

RxJaye 05-22-2009 12:19 PM

Thanks for explaining the difference more for me. (nice ride by the way)

I do see one other difference, Ur ride height appears to lower than mine (could and probably is the angle of the pictures) , more than just the .3" difference in the 275/35s height of 25.6" and the 255/35s height of 25". My ride height in the rear was 14.3" (from center of wheel to edge of fender) before i switch to the smaller tire.


I dont mind, still perfer not to rolling the lip on the fender that runs back into the fenderwell, I just dont want to have to mess with the fender to where it doesnt have the stock look.

I couldnt find a setup like the one Im talking about on here, if you can find it, That would be amazing.

Thanx again. the more input on this the better, As the tires get ordered next week and i want to make sure I get the size that will let tis work and I'll realign it the if i need to.

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 12:46 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot - I'm lowered on coilovers there, not a huge drop but enough to prove it considerable.

The sticking out .39" more than that pictured setup would be the largest problem.

I don't really remember what an rx8 at full stock height looks like :/ lol

dezau 05-22-2009 02:06 PM

Which one would look best on a stokck apperance package?
+30 +37 +43 for 18x8.5?
I'm getting a Work Emotions CR-Kai

TopGear8 05-22-2009 02:18 PM

^I would go with the +30. The CR-Kai have more concave the lower the offset. so they will look very nice.

RxJaye 05-22-2009 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3034174)
Oh yeah, I forgot - I'm lowered on coilovers there, not a huge drop but enough to prove it considerable.

The sticking out .39" more than that pictured setup would be the largest problem.

I don't really remember what an rx8 at full stock height looks like :/ lol

Do you think leaving my camber at -2.5 and removing the inside lip of the fender will give enough clearence? Would a different tire than the 255/35 work better?

Thanx again for all the help

dezau 05-22-2009 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by topgear8 (Post 3034327)
^I would go with the +30. The CR-Kai have more concave the lower the offset. so they will look very nice.

By pushing the wheels outward for 2cm, would it affect the handling? Hit the fender or anything?

Ross_Dawg 05-22-2009 04:19 PM

Youre going with a failrly conservative wheel width to begin with; so a +30 should be fine

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 04:37 PM

You actually could run your 245/40s on 9's without any issues if you wished as well...

Nice wheel choice :icon_tup:

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by RxJaye (Post 3034334)
Do you think leaving my camber at -2.5 and removing the inside lip of the fender will give enough clearence? Would a different tire than the 255/35 work better?

Thanx again for all the help


It looks as though you speak up trimming/cutting your rear fender lip when you say "Removing the lip". Just far clarification, rolling the fender has the same effect, you are merely folding the inner lip up to gain clearance.

With rolled or trimmed fenders I'd say you'd be fine.

If you are very worried, the easiest solution would be to pick up a pair of 245/40 used and see how much width clearance you'd have running those in the rear. Used tires are cheap and you can try that out before any trimming or rolling is done.

RxJaye 05-22-2009 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3034560)
It looks as though you speak up trimming/cutting your rear fender lip when you say "Removing the lip". Just far clarification, rolling the fender has the same effect, you are merely folding the inner lip up to gain clearance.

With rolled or trimmed fenders I'd say you'd be fine.

If you are very worried, the easiest solution would be to pick up a pair of 245/40 used and see how much width clearance you'd have running those in the rear. Used tires are cheap and you can try that out before any trimming or rolling is done.

Not a bad idea. I checked out that other thread and from the rim and tire combo he was using plus the car being lowered. I think i should b able tyo make this happen with minimal modification.
I know when the fenders are rolled a couple of small relkief cuts are made on the lip and then the lip is bent up. Is there any risk of paint damage when it is rolled up? Id rather cut the lip back or out if it would damage the paint rolling them

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by RxJaye (Post 3034716)
Not a bad idea. I checked out that other thread and from the rim and tire combo he was using plus the car being lowered. I think i should b able tyo make this happen with minimal modification.
I know when the fenders are rolled a couple of small relkief cuts are made on the lip and then the lip is bent up. Is there any risk of paint damage when it is rolled up? Id rather cut the lip back or out if it would damage the paint rolling them


Its more of a slow folding motion the tool makes rather than being "bent"" motion. With proper heat application you shouldn't need relief cuts (though it would potentially make it easier) and you won't have any paint damage. When I say damage, I do mean hairline crack in the clear coat on the inner portion of the lip, if anything. You will have just as much "damage" if the lip is trimmed (the clear coat will be broken at the point it is trimmed allowing for potential rust) and you may have a sharp edge in there. If done properly this stuff is avoided but I just happen to personally prefer rolling. Take your car in to a local shop that specializes in luxury/upper tier vehicle aftermarket modification and they should be able to tell you the details of rolling (how likely the paint to crack, will it need relief cuts, etc) and quote you a price. These guys don't fool around, they're used to doing the job on cars 2x, 3x, and 4x as expensive as our cars!

Previously I thought you wished to do no fender modification whatsoever, rolling/trimming is acceptable? You'll fit these no problem under those circumstances :rolleyes:

tiltmode43 05-22-2009 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3034545)
You actually could run your 245/40s on 9's without any issues if you wished as well...

Nice wheel choice :icon_tup:

I'm a fool, that's not even a potential size!

The breakdown is as such:


18 x 8.5JJ
Flat Face: +43 +37 +30
Semi Concave: +38 +32 +25

18 x 9.5JJ
Deep Concave: +38 +30 +20 +12

Concave is typically what makes some wheels look *prettier* than others. The curvature you see in the wheel is considered the concave.

This car shows the flat faced wheels (18x8.5 +43) up front with concave wheels (18x9.5 +38) in back. Note the subtle yet substantial difference!

https://i117.photobucket.com/albums/...Picture001.jpg

Your 245/40's will fit without any issues (slight stretch) but this will allow you to go with wider tires later down the line. (255/35 front & 265/35 rear has been done with a 18x9.5 +38 wheel on stock fenders, with no rubbing) I personally would recommend, both for performance and aesthetics, 18x9.5 +38! You may have some rubbing if you go with tires too wide later down the road but that is if you go with an extreme width.

Save yourself the time and purchase rims now that you will enjoy more later down the line!

PM some vendors, they may be able to meet you at $1600 or so for a new set of these...

RxJaye 05-22-2009 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3034738)
Its more of a slow bending motion the tool makes rather than a "bending" motion. With proper heat application you shouldn't need relief cuts (though it would potentially make it easier) and you won't have any paint damage. When I say damage, I do mean hairline crack in the clear coat on the inner portion of the lip, if anything. You will have just as much "damage" if the lip is trimmed (the clear coat will be broken at the point it is trimmed allowing for potential rust) and you may have a sharp edge in there. If done properly this stuff is avoided but I just happen to personally prefer rolling. Take your car in to a local shop that specializes in luxury/upper tier vehicle aftermarket modification and they should be able to tell you the details of rolling (how likely the paint to crack, will it need relief cuts, etc) and quote you a price. These guys don't fool around, they're used to doing the job on cars 2x, 3x, and 4x as expensive as our cars!

Previously I thought you wished to do no fender modification whatsoever, rolling/trimming is acceptable? You'll fit these no problem under those circumstances :rolleyes:

My first thought and intention was to do no fender work, but after thinking about it more and really wanting to make this work i have decided to go ahead and roll the fenders. after looking at the lip there isnt much lengh there to bend out of the way, so to simplify the process and to be able to hopefully to be able to still remove the camber out of the rear i decided to go ahead and roll them. I plan on doing this tomorrow. Thank you so much for your help, It is very very much appreciated

chickenwafer 05-23-2009 10:51 AM

So what would be a pretty aggressive offset for a set of WORK Miester S1's? I want to keep them in 18", maybe 19 I'm feeling frisky.

My car is pretty low, I know this will require fender rolling. I was thinking something like 18x9.5 at a +22 offset? I want a nice, fat lip.

Now I just need to decide on a color...ugh

dannobre 05-23-2009 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by chickenwafer (Post 3035286)
So what would be a pretty aggressive offset for a set of WORK Miester S1's? I want to keep them in 18", maybe 19 I'm feeling frisky.

My car is pretty low, I know this will require fender rolling. I was thinking something like 18x9.5 at a +22 offset? I want a nice, fat lip.

Now I just need to decide on a color...ugh

+22 will leave you with about 1/2 inch problems with a roll.....so you would want to stay around +35 with a roll and a bit of pissing around with the fender liner/camber. Unless you stay with 255ish tires.... 18" or 19" doesn't matter unless you pick the wrong tire profile

chickenwafer 05-23-2009 11:07 AM

^Thanks Dan. I was thinking Nitto NT05 255 series tires, nothing wider than that probably. Do you think a +22 18x9 will fit with 255 tires?

I'm pissed- there was this guy with a Titanium 8 selling his Miesters, lowered on KW V3 coilovers and it looked GREAT. I can't find his pictures anymore...I think he deleted the thead, it was about a year old. His setup was perfect, I kind of wanted to duplicate it lol

dannobre 05-23-2009 11:52 AM

I would think that + 30 with the 9.5" and 255 tires would be about the extent of an easier fix....+40 would be about perfect I would think...

chickenwafer 05-23-2009 01:41 PM

Ok cool. I think I will go 18x9.5 +32 or so with Nitto NT05 tires. I think a 35 series sidewall as opposed to a 40 series sidewall will help fitment....

draise8 05-24-2009 12:42 AM

help!
 
18x8.5 +32 offset stock tire size front

18x9.5 +35 offset 255/40 rear


car stock height, will it fit?

The Reverend 05-24-2009 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by draise8 (Post 3036071)
18x8.5 +32 offset stock tire size front

18x9.5 +35 offset 255/40 rear


car stock height, will it fit?

Check out the Calling All Rays thread I think a lot of guys run a similar set up for their Volks and they are ok...

ZumnRx8 05-24-2009 01:29 AM

STFU GET OUTTA MY HEAD :lol2:

tbonespeed12 05-24-2009 09:00 PM

would this work all around?

18x9.5 + 35

275/40/18

TopGear8 05-24-2009 09:03 PM

^You will rub if you are lowered significiantly. And it would be a 275/35/18, not 40.


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