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thewird 04-03-2013 10:26 PM

I think I'm starting to understand Team lol.

thewird

bcdjudo7 04-03-2013 10:28 PM

I sent my laptop out to OK so RIP can put tune into mazda edit that we did with hypertech last summer. Then shipping back to me to flash ecu. Hopefully turns out good ... he spent a shitload of time with the car last summer to get that tune. If it needs tweaked I'll head out to OK, but hoping I don't have to. Should know in next couple weeks at latest depending on how long it takes for him to get all of the info into mazda edit that he mapped out last summer.

bcdjudo7 04-03-2013 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by thewird (Post 4451220)
I think I'm starting to understand Team lol.

thewird

I think i'm starting to understand why very few stay in this forum .

DESRTpunk 04-05-2013 08:55 PM

I've been monitoring this thread for a while, and it's exciting to see that progress is slowly being made towards a proper tuning solution for the Series II.

I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to tuning but I understand the principles and how the electronic systems work, coming from working on aircraft flight systems. Does this mean that a Series II forced induction kit could also be pieced together or be in development by a manufacturer?

ShellDude 04-05-2013 09:04 PM

I'm pretty sure the bulk of the GReddy kit would work... swap in a hacked AEM CAI and enjoy!

Ekim 04-09-2013 03:34 PM

Paimon,
Do you have anymore news from verastune??

paimon.soror 04-09-2013 04:20 PM

The guy that I have been working with (Steve) took a vacation week last week so thats why I haven't heard back in that time. Still confident though that they are close to releasing a final build ;)

Ekim 04-09-2013 09:21 PM

Cool. Can't wait to have 2 option to play with....
Now I just gotta find a reputable tuner in Cali...

C Del 04-11-2013 09:23 AM

I'm interested in tuning my R3, but I also have an S1 that I would like to tune / practice on before messing with the newer 8, so I e-mailed epifan about MazdaEdit Pro. This is the bulk of what he replied with:


Features of mazdaEdit Pro:
1. mazdaEdit Pro is separate tool based on ecuEdit functionality
2. Mazda Logger
3. Only OpenPort 2.0 is supported
4. mazdaEdit Pro supports all markets 2.3Turbo cars (Mazda3 MPS (1st&2nd gen), Mazda6 MPS, CX7 (1st&2nd gen)), NA cars on Mitsu ECU (Mazda3 (1st gen) NA 2.0, 2.5 2005+, Mazda6 (1st&2nd gen) NA 1.8,2.0,2.3,2.5 2005+ and Denso ECU (Mazda3 (1st gen) NA 1.6 2005-2009, MX5, RX8

mazdaEdit Pro cost is $899 for unlimited flashed cars including support for one year.
This seems to indicate that the Pro version is more different from the Personal version than I had thought. Has anyone had a chance to use or see both? If so, are there any appreciable differences aside from the VIN restriction? I'm wondering if I should buy the Personal version twice (to tune two cars) or the Pro version once.

On the other hand, VersaTuner at least gives the appearance of a more professionally-produced product; does anyone here have experience with it who would recommend waiting for RX-8 support in VersaTuner instead of buying MazdaEdit?

ShellDude 04-11-2013 10:24 AM

You can define new maps with Pro if you know the base address, dimensions, and mask for the region you want to manipulate.

!.BuTLaH.! 04-15-2013 10:46 PM

Wow I haven't been this excited since i first heard of the Cobbs AP... I think I'll wait and weigh both options when available though... but at least MazdaEdit works and gives us one option to begin with!

bcdjudo7 04-21-2013 09:25 PM

Ok got my tune back from RIP using the maps we did last year on hypertech but just used mazda edit to do with that info. Turned out very good ! Idle is much smoother, seems to be a nice increase in pick up but I haven't done a dyno yet. May do one once it gets warmer but maybe RIP can get on here and give some info on what he did with the tune, etc. B

Ekim 04-29-2013 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4447426)
Preview of things to come :) ...

This is just the logging feature of the versatuner software, but so far so good. We can now see when APV's open/close, SSV's open/close, etc. Here is MAF voltage against RPM.


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4454467)
The guy that I have been working with (Steve) took a vacation week last week so thats why I haven't heard back in that time. Still confident though that they are close to releasing a final build ;)

Any news or update on versatune?
I'm pretty excited to see their final product. The"sneak peaks" and screen shots make the interface look sweet.

paimon.soror 04-29-2013 01:53 PM

Down to the final stretch barring any unexpected quirks as far as I am aware. They are just working on the checksum verification logic for the flashing of the ECU. Btw, they recently set up a section of their forum for the RX8 :)

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Ekim 04-29-2013 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4465267)
Down to the final stretch barring any unexpected quirks as far as I am aware. They are just working on the checksum verification logic for the flashing of the ECU. Btw, they recently set up a section of their forum for the RX8 :)

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Thanks Paimon. I'm glad to hear of the progress. I noticed the forum section, but there hasn't been any updates there since let month. I wish they posted and ETA our something. I'm sure everyone is excited for another S2 solution.

paimon.soror 04-29-2013 06:34 PM

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np, i'll obviously try to relay as much information as i can. I have attached some images of the logging utility inside of DT.

scorcherjf 04-29-2013 07:55 PM

Well I bit the bullet and ordered a tactrix. When it arrives I'll order Mazdaedit and let you guys know how it works out.

Chibana 05-01-2013 03:30 PM

Once all of this has been used a bit and you guys have some experience with it, I would love to see a sticky for tuning options for the Series II, including what you need to buy to get it going, tuning recommendations, etc.

paimon.soror 05-13-2013 06:45 PM

update from VT:


Hi Paimon,

One of the things we do before releasing a beta is do some "what if" testing. This involves trying to cause every possible bad thing to happen while flashing. During this testing, we were able to brick our bench ECU. We are trying to see if what happened is unique to our bench environment, or a possibility in a real car. Since we use the same standard flashing method as Mazda dealers and any other flash solution, the risk would exist when using any re-flash based tuning solution. We take safety and stability seriously, so we want to be sure that this won't happen to customers if it is at all preventable.

We hope to have a working beta to you in a week or so once we sort this out.

Best regards,

Steve

blu3dragon 05-22-2013 12:40 PM

I am dying to see some updates in this thread... at some point I will be taking the cat off my s2 to run on the track and I'd like to sort out AFR and the CEL when I do that and hopefully get a bit more tq and power for my effort. I'd also like to modify the throttle map to reduce sensitivity at low revs for street driving (although you get used to it, the factory map seems to make full tq at low revs in just a few mm of pedal travel - a nice trick to make the car feel quick, but it grows tiresome in traffic especially if you switch cars frequently). Finally, I might be interested in the BHR ignition if I can modify the dwell times accordingly, or perhaps I should just replace the coils with the latest oem 'C' version...

I *think* I can do all this today with Mazdaedit (not sure about the throttle map?), with some concerns over usability and stability... It will be good to know how versatuner compares and if it is worth the extra $$$ over mazdaedit. I didn't come up with much information when googling versatuner vs mazdaedit expecting to find some comparisons on cars they both support today.

Brettus 05-22-2013 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by blu3dragon (Post 4476726)

I *think* I can do all this today with Mazdaedit (not sure about the throttle map?), .

no problem to mod the throttle maps on ME (there are 4 of them).

paimon.soror 05-22-2013 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by blu3dragon (Post 4476726)
or perhaps I should just replace the coils with the latest oem 'C' version....

You would be hard pressed to find rev C coils at this point in time.

scorcherjf 05-22-2013 04:52 PM

For you guys that have mazdaedit... how was the set-up process for you? I've had to go back and forth with Epifan quite a bit after the initial setup (where he gives you the multiple key files necessary to get it to work) such as needing to send him an ECU bin dump file and then updating the mep.eed file before being able to load the ECU bin hex file he sends back.

Brettus 05-22-2013 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by scorcherjf (Post 4476854)
For you guys that have mazdaedit... how was the set-up process for you? I've had to go back and forth with Epifan quite a bit after the initial setup (where he gives you the multiple key files necessary to get it to work) such as needing to send him an ECU bin dump file and then updating the mep.eed file before being able to load the ECU bin hex file he sends back.

It was a drawn out process for me and pretty much everyone else I've talked to that has it .....I got pissed off several times - the end result was better than anything else I've had though.

blu3dragon 05-23-2013 12:00 AM

Mmm updates. Thanks brettus, though I have to ask, why are there 4 throttle tables? I was hoping for one 3d table pedal position vs throttle position vs rpm.


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