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Brettus 04-05-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4587397)
There's no reason to lean out an NA engine at the low end rpm range like that, kno king it out of closed loop that early is only eating fuel and hurting power

Not sure what you are referring to , but there were no changes made to the stock fueling below 5000rpm.

Ro_t8 04-07-2014 01:26 PM

I just got this email from steve today.

We are launching VersaTuner for Series II RX-8 today.* We are also running a spring sale.* VersaTuner is $100 off until Sunday night at midnight.

Ekim 04-07-2014 04:30 PM

Yess!! I think i might pull the "trigger" on that deal.

Ro,
Is that "$300" adapter they sell necessary? Pretty steep for an USB OB2 adapter...

Brettus 04-07-2014 04:38 PM

A word of caution .............. A new ECU flashing tool can be a minefield . We have been through this a lot on this forum .
We have not even seen a proper tune done using it yet ..............................Ro_t8 ?

Ekim 04-07-2014 04:45 PM

I am definitely aware of that. From all the developments I've been monitoring and the time its taking with ME, I am not planning on jumping into any Tuning Software Blind Folded. But hopefully I can be one of the 1st to share my findings with Versatuner.

I dont share much in this forum, but I read ALOT.
Members here can be "negative"...

Brettus 04-07-2014 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Ekim (Post 4588177)
and the time its taking with ME, ..

It took time because S2 owners here are just like we S1 owners were way back when thinking we would learn how to do it ourselves .........

Nothing wrong with that .......... but i can tell you that ME works and I have a car running on a successful tune right now .
Whether it will work for you , depends on more than whether the program works or not .......................... just sayin' .

Ekim 04-07-2014 05:05 PM

True true.
I am definitely not naive about the possible failure it could be, BUT I am also excited about another possible tuning solution for S2 owners.

S1s have all the fun.

Ro_t8 04-07-2014 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Ekim (Post 4588174)
Yess!! I think i might pull the "trigger" on that deal.

Ro,
Is that "$300" adapter they sell necessary? Pretty steep for an USB OB2 adapter...

the tactrix open port works too if you already have one, or can get one for cheaper than the versalink.

SpeedRebirth 04-07-2014 06:27 PM

Hello guys!
Just registered even though i dont have an RX8. But i still have some nice info to share with you all :)

I own a Mazda 6 MPS and i use Versatuner. So i have taken some screenshots and also uploaded a youtube clip of how you flash using this superb software.
Keep in mind that the tables shown here might be different from what you guys will have


Versatuner Startpage
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...tuner_home.jpg



Settings page
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...r_settings.jpg



There is an online database with OTS tunes, and below that is your own tunes
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...uner_tunes.jpg



Dashboard, this is where the live logging takes place
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics..._dashboard.jpg



Engine Idle is one of many tables available
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...tuner_idle.jpg



Open Loop Timing values in one of my tunes
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...ner_timing.jpg



Fuel target table
http://www.mazdapower.se/images/pics...tuner_fuel.jpg



And finally here's a youtube clip of the actual flashing of a new tune


Right now im at around 350-360BHP (290AWHP) on stock turbo so Versatuner sure does what it's supposed to! I would recommend this to anyone!! Go for it!! :)
If you have any questions feel free to ask! :)

Ro_t8 04-07-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4588175)
A word of caution .............. A new ECU flashing tool can be a minefield . We have been through this a lot on this forum .
We have not even seen a proper tune done using it yet ..............................Ro_t8 ?

Hopefully I'll be getting some dyno numbers real soon. I'm currently being delayed on dynoing right now cuz I'm fitting up my Mazdatrix body kit and repainting the whole car.

Ro_t8 04-07-2014 06:30 PM

Also I think my front o2 sensor is going out....

SpeedRebirth 04-07-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ro_t8 (Post 4588210)
the tactrix open port works too if you can get one for cheaper than the versalink.


I would recommend VersaLink over Tactrix because the tactrix can very easily break at the small usb connection. The versalink is much more sturdy

Ro_t8 04-07-2014 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth (Post 4588215)
I would recommend VersaLink over Tactrix because the tactrix can very easily break at the small usb connection. The versalink is much more sturdy

Exactly the reason I bought the versalink. And the versalink is only $150 when you get the package deal.

night_hawk 04-13-2014 07:30 PM

Personally I am so excited to finally be able to tune my s2 w/o ME that I think I'll have to jump on this one. And good timing too because my nitrous kit gets here wednesday :)

TeamRX8 04-17-2014 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4587434)
Not sure what you are referring to , but there were no changes made to the stock fueling below 5000rpm.

Guess i misunderstood what was going on since I didn't read the entire thread. The data I was looking at showed significantly richer AFRs below 5k.

Also, its amusing to watch you tell people the same things you were told when you were an early trailblazer with the then-new to the scene MazdaEdit system :-p


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Brettus 04-21-2014 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4591702)
Guess i misunderstood what was going on since I didn't read the entire thread. The data I was looking at showed significantly richer AFRs below 5k.
.

You didn't study the chart/read the commentary properly.

You are definitely a 'shoot first, ask questions later' kinda guy ;)


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4591702)

Also, its amusing to watch you tell people the same things you were told when you were an early trailblazer with the then-new to the scene MazdaEdit system :-p


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The difference being ..............I didn't have any other options at the time.

TeamRX8 04-21-2014 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4592454)
You didn't study the chart/read the commentary properly.

You are definitely a 'shoot first, ask questions later' kinda guy ;)

The difference being ..............I didn't have any other options at the time.


I read the graph and text then commented is all, and in the end it doesn't really matter either way which is why it makes more sense to acquiece rather than get into a debate over it. Thanks for the cheap shot in return ;)

the difference is now you have an reason to take that particular position; you invested yourself in the MazdaEdit option and feel like it fits your need. Now you're not interested in something else new ...

Ekim 04-21-2014 10:56 AM

Quick quick Testing with VersaTuner

I haven't had time to do a large amount of work. UI is pretty clean and easy to use. Installation on PCM was very quick and easy.

Have flashed to change Fan Temps and Timing only. Very simple to find Tables...
Will be MAF Scaling soon...

Will try to keep posting updates.

Brettus 04-24-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4592488)
I read the graph and text then commented is all, .
.

And your comment was wrong ..... which showed me you didn't read the explanation of what colour lines represented what.


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4592488)
Thanks for the cheap shot in return ;)
.

Don't mention it ........have a nice day .



Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4592488)
the difference is now you have an reason to take that particular position; you invested yourself in the MazdaEdit option and feel like it fits your need. Now you're not interested in something else new ...

I was merely trying to point out that there is a lot of pain in exploring a new direction when there are already perfectly good options available . It's not something I would do unless I thought there was something to gain .

Ro_t8 04-28-2014 10:14 PM

Here's a quick vid I just made, testing out the launch control and no lift shift.

Brettus 04-29-2014 12:48 AM

Very cool . Can you adjust the rpm ? 6500 seems a little high ?

Ro_t8 04-29-2014 05:51 AM

Thanks! Ya it is little high and I can change it. I'll be working on that today.

TeamRX8 05-03-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4593711)
And your comment was wrong ..... which showed me you didn't read the explanation of what colour lines represented what.


Since you seem to want to argue the point I went back and looked. The issue wasn't that I didn't read it. I just didn't catch your meaning of your wrong hemisphere choice of words anymore than if you told me your were going throw some chook on the barbie. We don't say 'normalize', we say 'clear', 'reset', or 'zero'

That said, I've never seen a factory S1 tune read that rich at that low in the rpm range.

Brettus 05-03-2014 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4596142)
Since you seem to want to argue the point I went back and looked. The issue wasn't that I didn't read it. I just didn't catch your meaning of your wrong hemisphere choice of words anymore than if you told me your were going throw some chook on the barbie. We don't say 'normalize', we say 'clear', 'reset', or 'zero'

That said, I've never seen a factory S1 tune read that rich at that low in the rpm range.

A few corrections :
*It's not a chook ........... it's a " shrimp on the barbie" .
* But that's only if you are an Aussie ....which i'm not . I guess my Avatar is hard to understand.
*Also normalise (and lots of other words) were always meant to be spelt with an 's' not with a 'z' (pronounced "zed" not zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ) but seeing as this is a US forum I guess I'll have to ............"do as the Romans do".
*A factory S1 tune ............you think 12.5-13 at 4000 is rich ?

yomomspimp06 05-03-2014 10:15 PM

I have seen versatune used with mazdaspeed vehicles. People really seem to like it.
With the LC and FFS does it cut fuel or ignition?


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