Turblown kit
#51
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Yeah most of what has been claimed over the years and is being claimed today is pretty much bullshit and wishful thinking in terms of numbers. Over the years I have just learned to ignore all dyno claims and just pay attention to real world results that can't be altered or faked. Having two other local turbo RX-8's to go to the drag strip with will give us a better picture of what is really capable.
#52
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Yeah most of what has been claimed over the years and is being claimed today is pretty much bullshit and wishful thinking in terms of numbers. Over the years I have just learned to ignore all dyno claims and just pay attention to real world results that can't be altered or faked. Having two other local turbo RX-8's to go to the drag strip with will give us a better picture of what is really capable.
All very confusing isn't it
#53
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I believe making a 400WHP once or twice with that setup, before grenading everything is possible. Doing it repeatably with that setup, no way. Do I think it is likely they fudged the numbers? It is likely, because it is Turdblown we are talking about. But (and this is a big but to me) the owner of that car is a stand up guy and if he says his dad witnessed it making that HP on the dyno and there was no apparent funny business, then I believe he saw what he saw and experienced what he experienced driving it.
Your virtual dyno while cool, and fun to play with, proves absolutely nothing to me. It's no different than the dyno function built into the Cobb and that is useless as well. If you buy it, then that is cool. But until I see video of you running 12's in 1/4 mile then it is just all fluff and useless banter to me.
Your virtual dyno while cool, and fun to play with, proves absolutely nothing to me. It's no different than the dyno function built into the Cobb and that is useless as well. If you buy it, then that is cool. But until I see video of you running 12's in 1/4 mile then it is just all fluff and useless banter to me.
#55
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Yeah I have heard everything here and after driving a few boosted 8's over the years, running around in Vegas with MM and them, etc. I can honestly say the only one I was ever impressed with was Olddraggers Pettit SC 8 when I drove it out in GA, that thing was a hoot to drive due to the instant boost. Shadycrew31's was a blast to drive when NA as well, almost like mine was on nitrous but all the time. Hopefully when mine is back together I can get that type of drivability and if I get my 1/4 times to low 13's. Then I will be happy until I figure out what is next.
#56
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I can't wait to drive Martin's modified Turblown top mount setup, he is almost done tuning with Kane. He moved to it from a Greddy with the BNR upgrade that was fun but from what he told me, still could not pull on what he considered lesser cars that he expected to beat.
#57
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We all believed it at the time , I think because we wanted to believe it was possible .And at the time "it's all about flow- boost is meaningless" was echoing in MM's follower's ears .
Let me state this quite clearly ..... that setup never made over 400whp - not even for a second . The only proof that it was a con job you should need, is that they claimed to do it at 10psi.
#67
You are lucky you got your money back man. I am so glad it all worked out for you, I can't wait to see some 1/4 mile run video. If I were to ditch my low mount setup I will likely go with the PTP kit, I plan on picking up a kit without the turbo before they run out of them.
I've contemplated going to the strip more to get data logs and just plain fun. Even if the car is swift I am not I am getting close to a dyno session tho. Was hoping for March, may wait until April. I'll have to see how work goes.
If you get the PTP pipes I'll gladly share whatever I can of my setup. I'm sitting really happy at about 14psi right now and it puts a smile on my face every time I hit it
#73
No they don't work as sold. You should talk to people who actually have experience with this kit. Dave doesn't know what he is talking about here. The turbo itself is the only thing that did work as advertised but that is only because it's the put together by Comp Turbo and not Turdblown.
The turbo doesn't actually work with the low mount kit because there's no room for both oil and water lines on the S2. Why do you think the turbo on that specific S2 @ Speed1 isn't the standard Turblown one? I'll let the owner chime in if he wants to give out any specifics.
Believe me, I don't like the way Elliot does business, but I also take Dave's opinion very seriously since he has been making a very concerted effort to getting the S2 Turbo project done using a Turblown-built kit. He's spent a great deal of time on trying to work with the ECU. So in terms of more experience, who else are you really going to ask?
save 5K more and do the 13brew swap :D but budget! don't overspend.
These comments are for S2's that want to pass emissions with a functioning dash, power steering, A/C, etc. If you're not in that camp, it's a lot cheaper.
I either have the know how or know people that do, I don't need to exp my life to everyone, but simply I am an accomplished EE with some extremely capable mechanic friends. If I had the desire I have no doubt I could build an entire turbo'd 8. I know enough and enough people I could develop an ECU flash myself. This would be my 4th rotary car and I have or know enough people to make any of these kits work (including and Fab work needed). Point is, I have other hobbies and am starting a new business (3D modeling) and neither have the time or desire to do it. This is why I was looking for a reliable bolt on kit for modest hp gains. I am not going to race or autoX, but I live in Denver and am already at a significant hp loss from altitude so i was looking for a good option.
I don't think you can do it. I don't think it can be done. But prove me wrong. The entire community will thank you for it.
That's not to say that the flash is the only solution to a turbo'ed S2.
Last edited by Roen; 03-14-2014 at 04:15 PM.
#74
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After tuning multiple s1 turbo 8s with both M/E and cobb . I can tell you that if someone fits a turbo to an S2 properly ...flash tuning it with M/E will not be a problem (to someone who knows what they are doing).
And.................. it will be the best solution.
And.................. it will be the best solution.
Last edited by Brettus; 03-14-2014 at 04:37 PM.
#75
Ha.......I wish I could tell you what I've seen on both the installation end and tuning end on this project, but I don't want to steal the owner's thunder.
The Aussies abandoned ME, didn't they? Now they're doing MoTeC + ME? or just straight MoTeC? I forget, you'll have to enlighten me.
The Aussies abandoned ME, didn't they? Now they're doing MoTeC + ME? or just straight MoTeC? I forget, you'll have to enlighten me.