salaminian

Hi there,I'm Leonidas from Greece and I've got a series 2 standard power.Revently I found a wrecked r3 and I was wondering what parts have to be swaped to convert my standard into r3?(except the exterior parts and tranny of course)

xexok

Sell your rx8 and buy an r3. It is going to be way way way way way cheaper to do that. Automatic to manual swaps are just money pits. You could just find any series 2 rx8 sport up to r3, they all used the same engine and transmission so you wouldn't need an r3.

ASH8

Yeah...forget it...

off the top of my head..

All ECU's and modules , main, wiring engine harnesses, dash cluster and wiring.

xexok is correct..

fyrstormer

Approach 1: Take a perfectly good car and bastardize the hell out of it with parts from a wrecked car, hopefully not missing anything important along the way, but definitely ruining the resale value no matter what.

Approach 2: Sell the perfectly good car and use the money to buy a different one with the spec you wanted to begin with, preserving your investment as much as possible.

salaminian

Thanks everyone for answering.I've got another inquiry.What about converting a 5mt standard power to a 6mt hi power?If I'm right both of them have 6 ports so logically the differences (except from tranny) have to do with injectors and ecu.So how about installing ecu and injectors?I'm always talking for series 2 cars.

salaminian

^Or something like installing injectors and reprogram stock ecu injecting like hi power?

ASH8

/\ I don't know how I did not pick this up...You say you have a Series 2 standard power auto???

What YEAR is it...as Series 2's ALL have 6 Port Engines (In Japan they also have 4 ports for Series 2).

LifeAfterRx8

iTrader: (17)

If you're looking to buy a wrecked R3 and transfer the parts for your Base model S2,
it'd probably be cheaper to just buy an R3 all together.

I'm not familiar with prices in Greece,
but I know here, R3's go for around $19,000+.

So that means unless your car is the same color as the R3, it may cost more to purchase the wrecked car, have the R3 parts painted (excluding interior of course). That's not even including the labor for converting your automatic to a manual, changing the cluster, ecu, etc. and if you ever go to sell the car, you could never actually sell it as an R3 as it'd still be registered as a base model 8.

godesshunter

Your thread is a bit confusing. You say in the title that you have automatic transmission, However you refer to 5mt in this quote...

If you DO have and automatic and want to switch to manual, check out this thread. Its for series 1 but has good info to consider.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/mt-swap-151684/

ShellDude

iTrader: (12)

...as in hopefully it scares you out the prospect of doing a conversion...

ASH8

OP...

I am almost certain you do not have a Series 2 "Standard Power" as they were not sold in Greece...Only R3's.

I think you have Series 1 Auto...what year is it?

So IF you want to convert a Auto Series 1 (2003-2008 Production) to a Series 2 (R3)...FORGET IT.

All Wiring Looms/Harnesses need to be changed.
Almost ALL dashboard equipment
All ECU/PCM and all control Modules..
BEFORE you even start on Engines, Transmissions, Transmission Wiring, Switch Gear, etc,etc

The list goes on and on..

salaminian

Sorry for confusing everyone.Iwas trying to describe my model using us specs.Series 2 standard power in Greece is 6 port,5mt 205hp.This is it http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9117/image245j.jpg and http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4776/image240t.jpg

ASH8

OK..

Like the all black wheels, something I have not seen...I take it they are factory??

Look mate I am not going to go around in circles about what you have or not have...

ANY 6 Port Engine is not the standard power it is high power...standard power is a 4 port.

PM me your (the car you own) VIN number, or post it here, that is full VIN Number and I will take it from there.

That is the JMZ-------------- one.

salaminian

Wheels are painted.For everything else you got pm.

ASH8

Just so you and everyone else knows including those in Greek forums.

From a FACTORY or Mazda parts and service point of view...

A 'Standard Power' RX-8 uses a 4 port Engine
A 'High Power' RX-8 uses a 6 port Engine.

You say you have a standard 6 Port, you are meaning YOUR particular car came standard with a 6 port.

As far as safety reasons giving me your TOTAL VIN and not the half Vin you supplied by PM is of little use to me, IF you can not supply me your total full VIN, then why should I waste my time assisting you?

What do you think I am going to do with a Europe VIN when I live in Australia, I have NO idea.

Orthonormal

In the United States, the 8th digit of the VIN indicates the engine type.

For model year 2010:
2 and 4 indicate "Rotary engine 13B-high power".
M and P indicate "Rotary engine 13B-low power".

They are all 6-port engines, but cars with automatic transmissions have the "low power" engine with lower redline (8000 RPM) and lower peak power (212 HP).

ASH8

Thread title changed...

40w8

I've never seen so much engine model confusion, but I think I can clear one up.

Auto's do make lower horsepower, but the 6 port engines whether auto or manual are essentially the same torque and horsepower up to the 7500 rpm redline of the auto.

salaminian

That's what I'm talking about with the only difference that in Greece the low power comes with a 5mt instead of auto.So what is the difference between the 212 and 231 engines?(engine management,injectors,etc).Is it possible to tune the 212 in order reach 231?

Orthonormal

Yes, the lower peak power is due to the lower redline. There may be no physical difference. In the case of US/Canada emissions vs California emissions, those are distinguished as different engines in the VIN, even though the only difference is in the engine computer -- probably the same computer, just a different program.