Difference between R3 and GT?
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[/QUOTE]Not in America, at least not unless you can get something that's not offered online OR at the dealership.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure they offered a black R3 in 2009. It was a plain black and the sport and gt were offered in a metallic black...if my memory serves me right. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
I am pretty sure they offered a black R3 in 2009. It was a plain black and the sport and gt were offered in a metallic black...if my memory serves me right. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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...and the R3 was available in "Brilliant Black Clearcoat" in '09 (dropped in '10). It is a metallic black.
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Are they actually made by BBS or did they just use BBS forging technology? Like the seats in the R3; they are probably not made by recaro, but made by mazda who just paid recaro $$$ to put their name on the seats (this is what mitsu does with the evo).
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They are BBS forged...I just looked it up.
I don't really want to debate whether they're nice. They're dead secksi wheels...but I would just prefer something different.
That's my favorite color, haha...why would they stop making black!? I figure that'd be a popular color...
I don't really want to debate whether they're nice. They're dead secksi wheels...but I would just prefer something different.
That's my favorite color, haha...why would they stop making black!? I figure that'd be a popular color...
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Yup...which is why the bolsters break on the Evo...BUT Mitsu replaces them!
I'm pretty sure Recaro makes the seats in the RX-8, though...someone on the forum called to talk to Recaro about one of the issues, and they said that they "make them to Mazda's specifications".
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To add to your original post. The AT GT came with no spoiler, the MT GT comes with a lip spoiler and the R3(all MT) comes with the raised spoiler(like you have, which was most likely a dealer installed accessory or from the previous owner). The R3 does not come with the option for a sunroof, as well as I don't believe it was available from the factory with the option to get the nav system. Other then that I believe you hit on all the other differences.
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I'm not going to repeat what others have said. Just to add one additional point, another difference (from an enthusiast's point of view) is the power moonroof on the GT. It takes away headroom which is important for some people when wearing a helmet. In addition, having extra weight up high is not good.
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I like my R3
wonder what R3 means?
road, race, rare?
as for the suspension, its on the bumpy side. I ride a motorcycle so its not a big of deal.
seat is fine Im 5'7 and 114lbs.
I like my R3
wonder what R3 means?
road, race, rare?
as for the suspension, its on the bumpy side. I ride a motorcycle so its not a big of deal.
seat is fine Im 5'7 and 114lbs.
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I got my R3 for a few reasons:
1. It looks (IMHO) much better than the GT. One reason I don't like stock GTs is because they look a little unbalanced visually. Big front end with gaping oil cooler vents, but the lack of side skirts makes it look odd.
2. It is very exotic looking. Coupled with the 19" wheels, side skirts and S2 front end it looks like a much more expensive vehicle than it is. The relative rarity of the S2 keeps people wondering as to what vehicle it is.
3. I love the Recaros. They are not for everyone though. Getting racing seats in this car would be expensive, and I think the Recaros even have side airbags in them.
4. It handles very well! I am done with modding my cars (so I say, until my first track day LOL) so the factory Bilsteins were attractive for their firm but relatively civilized ride.
I can see why you wouldn't want an R3 if you were going to seriously mod this car. But it is basically the same price as a GT and to me it was worth it to have such a rare and beautiful car! For less than $30k it is a no brainer. If it only had an extra 50hp I think it would be as perfect as any car this side of an Evora or Cayman S.
1. It looks (IMHO) much better than the GT. One reason I don't like stock GTs is because they look a little unbalanced visually. Big front end with gaping oil cooler vents, but the lack of side skirts makes it look odd.
2. It is very exotic looking. Coupled with the 19" wheels, side skirts and S2 front end it looks like a much more expensive vehicle than it is. The relative rarity of the S2 keeps people wondering as to what vehicle it is.
3. I love the Recaros. They are not for everyone though. Getting racing seats in this car would be expensive, and I think the Recaros even have side airbags in them.
4. It handles very well! I am done with modding my cars (so I say, until my first track day LOL) so the factory Bilsteins were attractive for their firm but relatively civilized ride.
I can see why you wouldn't want an R3 if you were going to seriously mod this car. But it is basically the same price as a GT and to me it was worth it to have such a rare and beautiful car! For less than $30k it is a no brainer. If it only had an extra 50hp I think it would be as perfect as any car this side of an Evora or Cayman S.
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Well, I kinda jumped the gun saying low quality...but here are the links...
Chafing
Height Issue <-- Not really a quality issue...but still worth considering.
Premature Wear
Basically the same stuff that people complained about in the Evo and STi...Recaro makes good seats, but they're super expensive...I would imagine that Mazda and Mitsu would skimp on the "super seats" in order to save themselves and us some cash.
Chafing
Height Issue <-- Not really a quality issue...but still worth considering.
Premature Wear
Basically the same stuff that people complained about in the Evo and STi...Recaro makes good seats, but they're super expensive...I would imagine that Mazda and Mitsu would skimp on the "super seats" in order to save themselves and us some cash.
A lot of people complain about not fitting in these seats. All I have to say is that they are a no ___ chicks kind of seat. If you have issues... eat less... run around the block a few times a week.... No more high fructose corn syrup... No fried foods... Only then are you worthy of an R3...
tee...hee...
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I don't think its the shocks that make it bumpy. I've got a 09 touring and replaced the 18's with factory R3 wheels. The ride definitely got a bit firmer/harsher. Just that much less sidewall to soak up the bumps. Not that I mind but it was noticeable.
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I never saw an R3 on any lot so I never got a chance to sit in one to see if the Recaros were too tight for me or if they robbed headroom over the Sport. Plus, exactly how stiff are the Bilsteins I wondered? And it doesn't look like the car sits any lower so its a bit of a waste. The tires are no better or wider either. I certainly could use a better stereo that the R3 has though, the Sport one bites.
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I never saw an R3 on any lot so I never got a chance to sit in one to see if the Recaros were too tight for me or if they robbed headroom over the Sport. Plus, exactly how stiff are the Bilsteins I wondered? And it doesn't look like the car sits any lower so its a bit of a waste. The tires are no better or wider either. I certainly could use a better stereo that the R3 has though, the Sport one bites.
the car doesnt sit lower, but the wheel off set is smaller.
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^^ since they (the seats) are different they could have a bottom cushion that sits higher than the Sport seat--or even from the bracketry. Plus theres no height adj so I don't know exactly where it would sit. But, the bottom cushion of the Recaro looks like it might be longer and angled up more, which would be just what I'd need because too much of my legs weight rests on the gas. My 12EEEs don't help here either. But this is just a guess with that seat. At 114 lbs u must be swimming in the Recaros!
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^^ since they (the seats) are different they could have a bottom cushion that sits higher than the Sport seat--or even from the bracketry. Plus theres no height adj so I don't know exactly where it would sit. But, the bottom cushion of the Recaro looks like it might be longer and angled up more, which would be just what I'd need because too much of my legs weight rests on the gas. My 12EEEs don't help here either. But this is just a guess with that seat. At 114 lbs u must be swimming in the Recaros!
yea I still have some room left even in the recaro.
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The GT has Power Drivers seat the R3 does not..
I also seriously looked at the R3 (called GT in Australia), but in the end I preferred the GT (called Luxury in Australia), the Sun roof, and ride IMO is better if you don't want the harder Bilsteins, plus for a 50 plus year old, Recaros are a PITA to get in and out of..
Both are great cars...engine and mechanically there is not difference.
The GT has Power Drivers seat the R3 does not..
I also seriously looked at the R3 (called GT in Australia), but in the end I preferred the GT (called Luxury in Australia), the Sun roof, and ride IMO is better if you don't want the harder Bilsteins, plus for a 50 plus year old, Recaros are a PITA to get in and out of..
Both are great cars...engine and mechanically there is not difference.
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