Series II Mazda OE Parts Number Listings- Complete
10-18-2010 | 05:22 PM
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That little half circle shaped spoiler is located in the front part of the undertray.
It doesnt have to be right before the engine bay air exit. The low pressure area it should create will carry for a ways.
OD
It doesnt have to be right before the engine bay air exit. The low pressure area it should create will carry for a ways.
OD
01-09-2011 | 02:53 AM
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Some S2 markets have single Oil Coolers for Auto's, most now don't unlike S1.
Does one less Oil Cooler change OP, some say Yes slightly some say NO, some say it has more to do with OC Lines and their restrictors/bends/fittings.
Oil viscosity can slightly alter OP.
But NO there is no real difference for S2.
01-20-2011 | 03:58 AM
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OK, I will try and make this simple..
First the Oiling System is completely different, Oil Pump, Front Timing Cover , ALL Irons, and Rotor Housings for the extra 2 nozzles, the internal guts of the engines are the same though.(Rotors, e-Shaft, Apex Seals, Oil Seals ETC)
So, next, and this is the main hurdle, the electronics and external add ons are really price prohibitive, that is you will need to spend an additional 6K+ in these parts, if they are not included in your "swap".
ALL Engine Wiring Looms,Dash Wiring looms, Speedo Cluster.
2 EMOP's at 550.00 each, 6 new Nozzles (different to S1 at $70 each=$420), Oil hoses connecting to nozzles and Oil supply lines and the 12 special bolts for banjo Oil Tube fittings, plus the 6 oil lines $300.
2 Metal brackets to mount EMOP's another $100.
New PCM, plus NEW Power Steering EPS Computer...around $1700.
All New Oil Hoses from Front Cover to new Oil coolers (different join connection to Series 1).
Then remember the Dash Wiring is different, as the main cluster is also different and has PCM controlled LED's on engine temps, then I don't know if you will have issues with PCM over the new 3 speed Cooling Fan relay set up, so the Main Fuse Box will need to be replace to cater for these changes, extra Relay's and for EMOP's.
PCM is also larger and has a different mounting cradle set up and loom plugs into PCM (only 2 large ones).
Basically there is just so much that needs to be changed and ALL VERY expensive.
Plus all the labor or time to renew all dash parts, looms, engine, etc.
Look, Philip from the UK has installed an S2 engine in his Buggy, but it is not an RX-8 'sole' as in Body, interior and ALL RX-8 electronics, he also has a Motec Engine management system...I think.
IMO, while it is not impossible, is it worth it?, you might as well buy a new R3.
Remember, I am talking making car 100% OE, obviously you may leave off some (minor) add ons or ''car features'' introduced in Series II if you are doing swaps....
Some of the non engine S2 parts are interchangeable with the Series 1, like suspension parts (Rear suspension Links, Front A Arms) have been beefed up on S2's and will fit OK on S1, even NC Miata/MX-5.
I must bookmark this reply...
First the Oiling System is completely different, Oil Pump, Front Timing Cover , ALL Irons, and Rotor Housings for the extra 2 nozzles, the internal guts of the engines are the same though.(Rotors, e-Shaft, Apex Seals, Oil Seals ETC)
So, next, and this is the main hurdle, the electronics and external add ons are really price prohibitive, that is you will need to spend an additional 6K+ in these parts, if they are not included in your "swap".
ALL Engine Wiring Looms,Dash Wiring looms, Speedo Cluster.
2 EMOP's at 550.00 each, 6 new Nozzles (different to S1 at $70 each=$420), Oil hoses connecting to nozzles and Oil supply lines and the 12 special bolts for banjo Oil Tube fittings, plus the 6 oil lines $300.
2 Metal brackets to mount EMOP's another $100.
New PCM, plus NEW Power Steering EPS Computer...around $1700.
All New Oil Hoses from Front Cover to new Oil coolers (different join connection to Series 1).
Then remember the Dash Wiring is different, as the main cluster is also different and has PCM controlled LED's on engine temps, then I don't know if you will have issues with PCM over the new 3 speed Cooling Fan relay set up, so the Main Fuse Box will need to be replace to cater for these changes, extra Relay's and for EMOP's.
PCM is also larger and has a different mounting cradle set up and loom plugs into PCM (only 2 large ones).
Basically there is just so much that needs to be changed and ALL VERY expensive.
Plus all the labor or time to renew all dash parts, looms, engine, etc.
Look, Philip from the UK has installed an S2 engine in his Buggy, but it is not an RX-8 'sole' as in Body, interior and ALL RX-8 electronics, he also has a Motec Engine management system...I think.
IMO, while it is not impossible, is it worth it?, you might as well buy a new R3.
Remember, I am talking making car 100% OE, obviously you may leave off some (minor) add ons or ''car features'' introduced in Series II if you are doing swaps....
Some of the non engine S2 parts are interchangeable with the Series 1, like suspension parts (Rear suspension Links, Front A Arms) have been beefed up on S2's and will fit OK on S1, even NC Miata/MX-5.
I must bookmark this reply...
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01-21-2011 | 04:34 PM
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Power Steering EPS Computer (Part Number).
Alternator...see pic, red highlights are changes N3R1 Part Numbers are S2 specific.
Read somewhere that output was also increased, larger battery, etc.
Alternator...see pic, red highlights are changes N3R1 Part Numbers are S2 specific.
Read somewhere that output was also increased, larger battery, etc.
04-29-2011 | 08:04 AM
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yes the alternator is now rated at 110 versus the 100 for the S1's
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
07-01-2011 | 07:49 PM
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@oldragger -- do you know how long? I did a few of runs at Bruntingthorpe recently - a 1.5 mile straight, flat out -- all 130MPH+; but did not experience that... (Only managed max. of 142 indicated, 139 GPS speed)... It was the fact that the fuel guage dropped from just below 1/4 tank to "breathing on fumes" which made ME cut the fuel and go in hunt of a filling station! :-)
Anyhow now a serious question on thread -- is there any differences with the rear doors on UK S1 & S2? (would a S1 rear door fit a S2?)
Anyhow now a serious question on thread -- is there any differences with the rear doors on UK S1 & S2? (would a S1 rear door fit a S2?)
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07-04-2011 | 06:05 PM
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Hi Ash, i was just wondering if you knew anything about the early batch of S2s, whether the June 08 Models included this update seeing as it is 09 Highlights? if not, is there a way to fit this/swap for this? I have an AU 08 GT (USA R3) and have not heard those noises after shutdown which you mentioned,so i guess im missing this new EMOP?
Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks mate.
Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks mate.
09 is the Model Year, all Series 2's started production in April,2008.(MY 2009)
ALL series 2's have that same set up.
It happens within (approx) 4 seconds after engine turn off, and in most cases you have to have a window or door open to hear it.
IF you own the GT like all S2's you have it.
07-12-2011 | 04:45 AM
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It's difficult to tell exactly what you are referring to. But, if you are referring to the half-circle cutout in the front edge of the aluminum cover under the oil pan, I believe that is for jack access to the crossmember central jacking point directly in front of it.
07-12-2011 | 05:39 AM
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yes the alternator is now rated at 110 versus the 100 for the S1's
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
should be some other way to disable that
07-12-2011 | 06:41 AM
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yes the alternator is now rated at 110 versus the 100 for the S1's
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
ATTENTION NEW DISCOVERY BY OLDDRAGGER.
By accident I have found out that if you track your S2 model and you maintain a speed greater than 124 mph for a pre determined lenght of time the cars computer will cut fuel to the engine and enter a fail safe mode! To disable this fail safe mode you have to run with the DSC/TC OFF!
That is interesting.
OD
03-24-2013 | 10:27 PM
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Recently added/updated a complete Mazda Parts Numbers listing of ALL the exclusively made parts for the 2009-2012 Series II RX-8.
For Engine most Parts Numbers start with N3R1-XX-XXXX and N3R2-XX-XXXX, and are only for and fit RENNY II Engines.
N3R3-XX-XXXX to N3R9-XX-XXXX also.
Chassis and Suspension or Body F189-XX-XXXX to F197-XX-XXXX.
Body and Interior FF14-XX-XXXX, FF15, FF16, FEY1, FEY4, FG15-XX-XXXX.
For Engine most Parts Numbers start with N3R1-XX-XXXX and N3R2-XX-XXXX, and are only for and fit RENNY II Engines.
N3R3-XX-XXXX to N3R9-XX-XXXX also.
Chassis and Suspension or Body F189-XX-XXXX to F197-XX-XXXX.
Body and Interior FF14-XX-XXXX, FF15, FF16, FEY1, FEY4, FG15-XX-XXXX.
03-24-2013 | 11:28 PM
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Recently added/updated a complete Mazda Parts Numbers listing of ALL the exclusively made parts for the 2009-2012 Series II RX-8.
For Engine most Parts Numbers start with N3R1-XX-XXXX and N3R2-XX-XXXX, and are only for and fit RENNY II Engines.
N3R3-XX-XXXX to N3R9-XX-XXXX also.
Chassis and Suspension or Body F189-XX-XXXX to F197-XX-XXXX.
Body and Interior FF14-XX-XXXX, FF15, FF16, FEY1, FEY4, FG15-XX-XXXX.
For Engine most Parts Numbers start with N3R1-XX-XXXX and N3R2-XX-XXXX, and are only for and fit RENNY II Engines.
N3R3-XX-XXXX to N3R9-XX-XXXX also.
Chassis and Suspension or Body F189-XX-XXXX to F197-XX-XXXX.
Body and Interior FF14-XX-XXXX, FF15, FF16, FEY1, FEY4, FG15-XX-XXXX.
11-21-2020 | 12:38 PM
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All New Powertrain Control Module (PCM) with TEMPERATURE SENSOR newly added and built into the PCM, when ETC (Engine Compartment Temperature) reaches 230F or 100C with Ignition OFF, Medium Cooling Fans Switch ON.
New Larger Genuine Oil Filter and Repositioned On Front Timing Cover Housing To-wards The Sump (Left Hand Side). USE GENUINE 09 SERIES II OIL FILTER ONLY.
Revised Oil Filler and Dip Stick (Longer Type).
New EMOP "Electric Metering Oil Pumps" Two of them... Internal Oil Pressure in EMOP's is between 7.3 and 21.7 PSI (Used for the first time by Mazda)
New Design Oil Injection Nozzles 3 per Rotor Housing..Totalling 6.
New Oil Pump Assembly.
50% Higher Oil Pressure Rate at 100 oC (121oF) @3000 RPM...500 kPa {5.10 kgf/cm2, 72.5 psi} When compared to Series 1 RX-8.
New Oil Pressure Sensor (ONLY Located on #1 EMOP).
Larger Oil Pan Sump Capacity.
New Hex (8mm) Type Sump Drain Plug.
New Internal Oil/Sump Pan Magnet...(First Time Used In A Rotary Engine Since 1985 FC RX-7)
New External Silver Plate Engine Sump Guard.
New Inlet Manifold.
Revised Auxiliary Port Valves.
Revised 4 Fuel Injection Nozzles (2 Primary, 2 Secondary). (Series I six Port Engine had 6 FI Nozzles).
Revised Atmospheric Air Control Solenoid (Near Throttle Body)
New Fuel Pump.
New Radiator Core.
New Radiator Electric Fan Motors.
Revised Radiator Fans Speeds from 2 to 3 Speeds. (Low, Middle, High).
New Alternator.
New Starter Motor (14 Tooth Cog).
New Battery 80D26L. (80 AMP Hour) (Was 50D22L (50AH) or 75D26L (75AH) in Series I)
New Exhaust System.
New Air Conditioner Temperature Controller (Amplifier).
New Bridgestone RE050A's in 18" and 19" (R3).
New Manual Transmission (6 speed MX-5/Miata) (Reverse is now next to 1st gear not next to 6th gear).
New Differential Ratio (Manual).
New Differential Fixing Plate Washer on PPF (Power Plant Frame).
New Differential Mounting Bracket.
New Additional Alloy Cooling Fins (4) on Alloy Differential Cover Plate, Plus Deeper Set Cooling Fins.
Changed Throw Out Bearing (Thrust or Fork Bearing).
Revised Oil Coolers, Air Intakes and Oil Cooler Hose Lines.
Extra Rotor Knock Sensor (Now 1 per Rotor, Total Of 2).
New Water Pump/ New Timing Cover to suit.
New Water Pump Pulley.
New Water Pump "O" Ring as Gasket.
New Spark Plug Leads.
New Ignition Coil Backing/Mounting Plate (Now Ventilated)
New Alternator/Air Compressor Drive Belts.
Revised Eccentric Shaft (Crankshaft) Pulley.
Revised Oxygen Sensor (CAT).
Revised Air/Fuel Ratio Sensor (Exhaust Manifold).
New Air Pump Control Unit.
New One Piece Trans Tunnel Heat Shield (Previously Two Piece).
New Under Body Covers Reducing C Drag from 0.31 to now 0.30.
Larger Fuel Tank (5 litres extra or around a gallon).
New Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Hydraulic Unit Control Module.
New Yaw Rate (or Combined Sensor) Sensor Unit.
New Rear Suspension Control Links (Rods) Upper/Lower and Trailing have Increased In Diameter.
New Rear Stabilizer Bar. (R3)
New Rear Shocks And Springs.
New Rear Axles (Manual Trans).
New Rear Suspension Knuckles.
New Rear Parking Brake Cables.
New ABS Wheel Sensors (All 4 Wheels).
Revised TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) US Only.
New Front Upper And Front Lower Suspension Arms (Wishbone).
New Front Steering Knuckles And Wheel Hubs.
New Front Stabilizer Bar.
New Front Shock and Springs.
New Dashboard Mounting Frame with Crossbar Bushings.
Revised Power Steering Control System Unit.
Revised Headlamp Auto Leveling Sensors.
Revised Air Bag Control Module.
New 3 Piece (Instead of 2) Strut Tower Brace (Manual Only), Auto's Retains Two Piece Tower Brace.
Revised Front and Rear Wheel Arch Splash Guards/Shields.
Thicker (Heavier Guage) Steel On The Two Front Strut Towers.
Additional Spot Weldings Around Both Door Openings For Increased Rigidity.
Stiffened Body Shell = Torsional (twisting) and Flexural (bending) Rigidity have been increased by 5.4 and 8.7 per cent respectively.
Auto's and Manual's both have 6 port engines, Max Power RPM (kw) has been limited to 7500 for Auto compared to 8200 RPM for the manual.
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See complete list of all new RX-8 Series II 2009~ Mazda PART Number List (North American market) BELOW...this list does not include shared Series I (2004-2008) Mazda parts also used in Series II.
New Larger Genuine Oil Filter and Repositioned On Front Timing Cover Housing To-wards The Sump (Left Hand Side). USE GENUINE 09 SERIES II OIL FILTER ONLY.
Revised Oil Filler and Dip Stick (Longer Type).
New EMOP "Electric Metering Oil Pumps" Two of them... Internal Oil Pressure in EMOP's is between 7.3 and 21.7 PSI (Used for the first time by Mazda)
New Design Oil Injection Nozzles 3 per Rotor Housing..Totalling 6.
New Oil Pump Assembly.
50% Higher Oil Pressure Rate at 100 oC (121oF) @3000 RPM...500 kPa {5.10 kgf/cm2, 72.5 psi} When compared to Series 1 RX-8.
New Oil Pressure Sensor (ONLY Located on #1 EMOP).
Larger Oil Pan Sump Capacity.
New Hex (8mm) Type Sump Drain Plug.
New Internal Oil/Sump Pan Magnet...(First Time Used In A Rotary Engine Since 1985 FC RX-7)
New External Silver Plate Engine Sump Guard.
New Inlet Manifold.
Revised Auxiliary Port Valves.
Revised 4 Fuel Injection Nozzles (2 Primary, 2 Secondary). (Series I six Port Engine had 6 FI Nozzles).
Revised Atmospheric Air Control Solenoid (Near Throttle Body)
New Fuel Pump.
New Radiator Core.
New Radiator Electric Fan Motors.
Revised Radiator Fans Speeds from 2 to 3 Speeds. (Low, Middle, High).
New Alternator.
New Starter Motor (14 Tooth Cog).
New Battery 80D26L. (80 AMP Hour) (Was 50D22L (50AH) or 75D26L (75AH) in Series I)
New Exhaust System.
New Air Conditioner Temperature Controller (Amplifier).
New Bridgestone RE050A's in 18" and 19" (R3).
New Manual Transmission (6 speed MX-5/Miata) (Reverse is now next to 1st gear not next to 6th gear).
New Differential Ratio (Manual).
New Differential Fixing Plate Washer on PPF (Power Plant Frame).
New Differential Mounting Bracket.
New Additional Alloy Cooling Fins (4) on Alloy Differential Cover Plate, Plus Deeper Set Cooling Fins.
Changed Throw Out Bearing (Thrust or Fork Bearing).
Revised Oil Coolers, Air Intakes and Oil Cooler Hose Lines.
Extra Rotor Knock Sensor (Now 1 per Rotor, Total Of 2).
New Water Pump/ New Timing Cover to suit.
New Water Pump Pulley.
New Water Pump "O" Ring as Gasket.
New Spark Plug Leads.
New Ignition Coil Backing/Mounting Plate (Now Ventilated)
New Alternator/Air Compressor Drive Belts.
Revised Eccentric Shaft (Crankshaft) Pulley.
Revised Oxygen Sensor (CAT).
Revised Air/Fuel Ratio Sensor (Exhaust Manifold).
New Air Pump Control Unit.
New One Piece Trans Tunnel Heat Shield (Previously Two Piece).
New Under Body Covers Reducing C Drag from 0.31 to now 0.30.
Larger Fuel Tank (5 litres extra or around a gallon).
New Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Hydraulic Unit Control Module.
New Yaw Rate (or Combined Sensor) Sensor Unit.
New Rear Suspension Control Links (Rods) Upper/Lower and Trailing have Increased In Diameter.
New Rear Stabilizer Bar. (R3)
New Rear Shocks And Springs.
New Rear Axles (Manual Trans).
New Rear Suspension Knuckles.
New Rear Parking Brake Cables.
New ABS Wheel Sensors (All 4 Wheels).
Revised TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) US Only.
New Front Upper And Front Lower Suspension Arms (Wishbone).
New Front Steering Knuckles And Wheel Hubs.
New Front Stabilizer Bar.
New Front Shock and Springs.
New Dashboard Mounting Frame with Crossbar Bushings.
Revised Power Steering Control System Unit.
Revised Headlamp Auto Leveling Sensors.
Revised Air Bag Control Module.
New 3 Piece (Instead of 2) Strut Tower Brace (Manual Only), Auto's Retains Two Piece Tower Brace.
Revised Front and Rear Wheel Arch Splash Guards/Shields.
Thicker (Heavier Guage) Steel On The Two Front Strut Towers.
Additional Spot Weldings Around Both Door Openings For Increased Rigidity.
Stiffened Body Shell = Torsional (twisting) and Flexural (bending) Rigidity have been increased by 5.4 and 8.7 per cent respectively.
Auto's and Manual's both have 6 port engines, Max Power RPM (kw) has been limited to 7500 for Auto compared to 8200 RPM for the manual.
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See complete list of all new RX-8 Series II 2009~ Mazda PART Number List (North American market) BELOW...this list does not include shared Series I (2004-2008) Mazda parts also used in Series II.
whats that sensor for on top of the engine cover on series 2 rx8
11-22-2020 | 06:58 PM
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Not a Sensor but a Solenoid, it is use to control some engine oil flow to the MOP's and the return oil (when flushing) from the TWO electronic MOP (Metering Oil Pumps) which then distribute oil to 6 x Oil Injection Nozzles in Rotor Housings to lubricate Apex Seals and Housings.
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