Alignment settings for street/track use
#478
so has anyone used whiteline camber kit bushings to get more negative camber out of stock suspension?
what is the trick to get most negative front camber out of the stock suspension?
what is the trick to get most negative front camber out of the stock suspension?
#479
Water Foul
I have not personally tried it. I did ask Chris at Cobb Tuning, who does a lot of performance suspension work, about offset bushings in general, and he told me they have trouble with them moving and not holding an alignment. His recommendation is adjustable control arms.
Counterpoint...
I asked Terry at Vorschlag Motorsports (also does a lot of suspension work) the same question, and he said they have used them successfully in many cars.
That was quite literally of no help, wasn't it?
I will be at the track Saturday and will try to remember to ask the owner of Motorsport Enterprises (specializes in Miatas and RX-7s and 8s) what he thinks of them.
It would be great if they work. The most negative camber I have been able to get out of my front suspension is -2.4. That is with a ride height of 3.75" measured at the pinch welds. I want -3.5. Badly.
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Counterpoint...
I asked Terry at Vorschlag Motorsports (also does a lot of suspension work) the same question, and he said they have used them successfully in many cars.
That was quite literally of no help, wasn't it?
I will be at the track Saturday and will try to remember to ask the owner of Motorsport Enterprises (specializes in Miatas and RX-7s and 8s) what he thinks of them.
It would be great if they work. The most negative camber I have been able to get out of my front suspension is -2.4. That is with a ride height of 3.75" measured at the pinch welds. I want -3.5. Badly.
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Last edited by Steve Dallas; 03-02-2017 at 01:13 PM.
#480
Water Foul
These are my current settings, BTW. The front is uneven, but I told him to "max out both sides, and I will drive to it." Turning left and turning right are a little different.
#482
Everywhere I have asked says NLA
I guess I'll have to make my own - a pain but at least I can make them with slightly more offset.
James
#483
James
#485
#487
#488
Water Foul
Mazdaspeed Motorsports lists the following part:
0000-04-5420
1
BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
Notes: BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
MX-5 Miata
RX-8
ALL
2004 - 2015
$86.80
No idea who makes it, or if it is for one axle or two.
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0000-04-5420
1
BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
Notes: BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
MX-5 Miata
RX-8
ALL
2004 - 2015
$86.80
No idea who makes it, or if it is for one axle or two.
.
#489
Mazdaspeed Motorsports lists the following part:
0000-04-5420
1
BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
Notes: BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
MX-5 Miata
RX-8
ALL
2004 - 2015
$86.80
No idea who makes it, or if it is for one axle or two.
.
0000-04-5420
1
BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
Notes: BUSH.KIT,OFFSET(DELRIN)
MX-5 Miata
RX-8
ALL
2004 - 2015
$86.80
No idea who makes it, or if it is for one axle or two.
.
the part # we are after is 0000-04-8001
#490
Water Foul
#492
This is with -6 caster and a ride height around 13.5in from hub center to wheel arch. I'll need to check what that equates to from the pinch welds, but it is not super low.
Backing out the caster did not make much difference to the static camber btw, so I think I will add more in next time.
My prev car was at -2.9 at the front, but slightly lower, so probably equivalent to -2.7 at this car's ride height.
0.15 degrees toe seems high in the rear? I never really know what to have here, am at 0.05 per side right now, and 0.00 at the front.
#493
Water Foul
Thanks for posting. Makes me feel a bit better about my new car's alignment. Was at -2.7 on the front right, but could not get more than -2.3 on the left. Ended up evening it out so -2.3 all around (front and rear).
This is with -6 caster and a ride height around 13.5in from hub center to wheel arch. I'll need to check what that equates to from the pinch welds, but it is not super low.
Backing out the caster did not make much difference to the static camber btw, so I think I will add more in next time.
My prev car was at -2.9 at the front, but slightly lower, so probably equivalent to -2.7 at this car's ride height.
0.15 degrees toe seems high in the rear? I never really know what to have here, am at 0.05 per side right now, and 0.00 at the front.
This is with -6 caster and a ride height around 13.5in from hub center to wheel arch. I'll need to check what that equates to from the pinch welds, but it is not super low.
Backing out the caster did not make much difference to the static camber btw, so I think I will add more in next time.
My prev car was at -2.9 at the front, but slightly lower, so probably equivalent to -2.7 at this car's ride height.
0.15 degrees toe seems high in the rear? I never really know what to have here, am at 0.05 per side right now, and 0.00 at the front.
#499
I am guessing lower would yield most additional negative camber with leaving the UCA stock?
More importantly do these stay put - don't rotate during the track use?
Has anyone actually used them?
interesting install video:
Last edited by Nadrealista; 04-14-2017 at 02:13 PM.
#500
Registered
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fwiw, I went to a local shop out in LA that handles a lot of tracked / raced miatas, and they tried to use offset bushings to get some additional camber adjustment, and they had tons of issues with them (in general, not these specifically). They would rotate while being tracked... and when they drilled and bolted them in, they cracked. They basically said they weren't a viable solution, as sometimes the camber would get out of adjustment after a single session...