Grassroots Motorsports article 5/03
03-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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Grassroots Motorsports article in 5/03 issue
Of course they like it. New info (to me) is that caster, camber and toe are all fully adjustable. The only thing they didn't like was the side view of the car...to each his own, I guess.
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Re: Grassroots Motorsports article in 5/03 issue
Originally posted by spindoc
Of course they like it. New info (to me) is that caster, camber and toe are all fully adjustable. The only thing they didn't like was the side view of the car...to each his own, I guess.
Of course they like it. New info (to me) is that caster, camber and toe are all fully adjustable. The only thing they didn't like was the side view of the car...to each his own, I guess.
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Re: Grassroots Motorsports article in 5/03 issue
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New info (to me) is that caster, camber and toe are all fully adjustable.
New info (to me) is that caster, camber and toe are all fully adjustable.
you can... HUH???
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... i STILL can't believe it... ****, i've gotta get back to work!! :D
castor is the angle of the plane the wheels turn on (usually about horizontal, or 0), camber is the angle of the wheel's rolling orientation to vertical... errr, i mean, how much they "lean" in and out... in is negative camber (as you can plainly see on really shittily lowered cars)
(also in plain english) toe is how much the wheels point in or out, negative in, positive out...
these settings give the vehicle very different dynamics when changed only a few degrees, and are very very "black arts" as far as getting "the perfect setup" for certain conditions... this is where the real race engineers make their money: understanding the car and it's behavior and response to changes like these, and understanding the track and its conditions, and what setup on the car will work the best in it.
of course there's more to it, with things like suspension design (which don't all allow you to change some of these aspects, fixing them at some obsure degree), spring and damper settings, not to mention things like wheel offset, sidewall height, tyre pressure, tyre construction... it goes on and on. there are just lots of things you can fiddle with to try and hit that sweetspot.
castor is the angle of the plane the wheels turn on (usually about horizontal, or 0), camber is the angle of the wheel's rolling orientation to vertical... errr, i mean, how much they "lean" in and out... in is negative camber (as you can plainly see on really shittily lowered cars)
(also in plain english) toe is how much the wheels point in or out, negative in, positive out...
these settings give the vehicle very different dynamics when changed only a few degrees, and are very very "black arts" as far as getting "the perfect setup" for certain conditions... this is where the real race engineers make their money: understanding the car and it's behavior and response to changes like these, and understanding the track and its conditions, and what setup on the car will work the best in it.
of course there's more to it, with things like suspension design (which don't all allow you to change some of these aspects, fixing them at some obsure degree), spring and damper settings, not to mention things like wheel offset, sidewall height, tyre pressure, tyre construction... it goes on and on. there are just lots of things you can fiddle with to try and hit that sweetspot.
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03-21-2003, 05:08 PM
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This is as expected. No different than an S2000. What isn't known, is how radical the adjustments can be made. This car WILL be competitive with the Nissan Z-350 at autoX. What is unknown is if it has any advantage over the S2000 on an autoX course other than the larger wheels and better low-end power curve.
03-21-2003, 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by wakeech
omg... AUTOCROSSERS UNITE, your ride has arrived. wowee zowee...
omg... AUTOCROSSERS UNITE, your ride has arrived. wowee zowee...
03-21-2003, 05:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Grassroots Motorsports article in 5/03 issue
Originally posted by eccles
Uh, this is no different from the Miata, which offers caster, camber and toe adjustments on all four wheels.
Uh, this is no different from the Miata, which offers caster, camber and toe adjustments on all four wheels.
anyhoo, i'm just excited 'cause i know MOST cars haven't the range of adjustability, in quantity of dial-in, and range of aspects to change... like castor :D just sweet.
... the whole thing is, you can't change most of these things on a McStrut system, yes?? and the RSX has a Mcstrut system, and is about the same size (a bit smaller), and about the same cost (a bit cheaper) and the motor ain't too much smaller (600cc's of capacity)... *shrug* it's just icing on an already very sweet cake.
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