ATTN: rx8 owners with Navigation system
03-24-2005 | 04:34 PM
#28
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You're right that the 210 isn't on it. I got lost driving the 210 because it misdirected me. Of course, since I have navigation, I quickly re routed myself. I also noticed a lot of roads in Phoenix that aren't on there.
For me, though, I live in the Bay Area, and I've never had a serious problem with it here. Sometimes, it takes me the long way around, but all the roads I travel on seem to be on it.
For me, though, I live in the Bay Area, and I've never had a serious problem with it here. Sometimes, it takes me the long way around, but all the roads I travel on seem to be on it.
03-29-2005 | 06:31 PM
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One problem I do have with navigation, just a little pet peeve: it doesn't tell you what side of the road an address is on until you're right on it. Yesterday, I was meeting a friend for lunch at a place I've never been to. Naturally, I punch it into NAV. Half mile from the place, I punch the Voice button to see what side of the road it is on. It won't tell me! So I look at the map zoomed in as far as I can. It sort of looks like it is on the left side of the road, so I go to that side. Nope, the voice tells me, "Destination is to the right" just as I get into the left turn lane.
Why can't it tell me half mile beforehand what side of the road it is on, so I can get to the proper lane in time?
Why can't it tell me half mile beforehand what side of the road it is on, so I can get to the proper lane in time?
04-13-2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N5TEV
Check the "route preview" screen (or something similar sounding on the menu list)
AFAIK, the only way to get side of the road info is from the voice prompt. And the prompt only says the side of the road when you're fairly close to the destination. That's fine if you're trying to find a house, because residential streets usually only have two lanes. But when you're going down a fairly busy street with multiple lanes in each direction, it would be very helpful if you knew what side of the street your destination is located.
For example, you're trying a to find a restaurant. It's on a busy street. The map will put a marker on the destination, but it will not say if it is on the left side of the street or the right side of the street.
04-13-2005 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TwitchFD
i say f**k it... make it into a dvd player like myself
1) Unless you only go to work and back, you're going to eventually have to go somewhere you've never been before. Using NAV is ten times easier than printing out directions from Mapquest.
2) Even if you are going somewhere you've been before, it's useful in telling you how far you have to go. I used to live in the Phoenix area and drove there once in this car. Although I know exactly where to go (because I lived there for years), it was handy to know how many miles until you reach your destination.
If I still lived in Phoenix, I probably never would have gotten NAV because 1) I lived there so long, I could find places fairly easily; and 2) Phoenix is flat and the main streets are in a grid that is aligned with North. Very easy to get around.
Since I moved I find I need NAV because 1) I'm new in the area and don't even know where some cities are located, much less streets; and 2) there are dozens of cities in the Bay Area and many don't use a grid.
04-13-2005 | 07:03 PM
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I've been driving for a long time. I consider the Nav system similar to a map. Maps usually don't tell you what side of the street something is on. When I get near my destination, I look on one side of the street for large numbers for the street address. That tells me what side the building I want is (usually).
When I drive, I usually have the stereo up loud. With the music going, hearing the voice is difficult, besides, I would rather listen to the music
. I rely on the map. Somewhere on the nav system's map (I don't remember which corner) is an arrow and text indicating the next thing you should do, and the direction (like an arrow up and to the left). This usually gives enough of a heads up.
When I drive, I usually have the stereo up loud. With the music going, hearing the voice is difficult, besides, I would rather listen to the music
. I rely on the map. Somewhere on the nav system's map (I don't remember which corner) is an arrow and text indicating the next thing you should do, and the direction (like an arrow up and to the left). This usually gives enough of a heads up.
04-13-2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
1) Unless you only go to work and back, you're going to eventually have to go somewhere you've never been before. Using NAV is ten times easier than printing out directions from Mapquest.
The other time I most use it is when my wife uses me as her nav system
. She has a nav system in her car, but she has me drive first (using the nav system) and she writes down directions.
04-13-2005 | 07:09 PM
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Yeah the DVD is REALLY out dated. It's at least 3 years old I think. Over 1/2 the places I go to aren't on the map which sucks.
Out of like 8 of the houses I tried plugging in, 5 of them were not on the map. It doesn't bother me that much though, but I WOULD like an update for like 20 bucks. I mean for a bunch of the places I just plug in the closest major intersection and then use directions (from the person I'm going to hang out with) gave me.
It's just kind of a bummer since it shouldn't require that at all.
Out of like 8 of the houses I tried plugging in, 5 of them were not on the map. It doesn't bother me that much though, but I WOULD like an update for like 20 bucks. I mean for a bunch of the places I just plug in the closest major intersection and then use directions (from the person I'm going to hang out with) gave me.
It's just kind of a bummer since it shouldn't require that at all.
04-13-2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Gotwisner
I've been driving for a long time. I consider the Nav system similar to a map. Maps usually don't tell you what side of the street something is on. When I get near my destination, I look on one side of the street for large numbers for the street address. That tells me what side the building I want is (usually).
04-18-2005 | 05:05 PM
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OK.. Let me see if I get this thread straight:
As of now, Navteq has not released NEW MAPS (2004/2005 year) for the RX8 (we all have 2002 maps). This I know to be true since I have spoken with Navteq. Is this National MAP update (not just certain states??)
What you guys are saying is that the DVD Map Update for the Lincoln Navigator works in the RX-8 and is a mere $40.
SO, I can go spend $40 at my local lincoln dealer to get the Aviator update disc and I will have the latest and greatest Map info my my RX-8?
If this is TRUE, please please please post to the Interior, Audio, and Electronics forum because there are a TON of 8 owners pissed off at Navteq and Mazda. Someone who got this to work please reply...if this works, I am going to my local Lincoln dealer tomorrow!
As of now, Navteq has not released NEW MAPS (2004/2005 year) for the RX8 (we all have 2002 maps). This I know to be true since I have spoken with Navteq. Is this National MAP update (not just certain states??)
What you guys are saying is that the DVD Map Update for the Lincoln Navigator works in the RX-8 and is a mere $40.
SO, I can go spend $40 at my local lincoln dealer to get the Aviator update disc and I will have the latest and greatest Map info my my RX-8?
If this is TRUE, please please please post to the Interior, Audio, and Electronics forum because there are a TON of 8 owners pissed off at Navteq and Mazda. Someone who got this to work please reply...if this works, I am going to my local Lincoln dealer tomorrow!
Last edited by djseto; 04-18-2005 at 05:13 PM.
04-18-2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by djseto
OK.. Let me see if I get this thread straight:
As of now, Navteq has not released NEW MAPS (2004/2005 year) for the RX8 (we all have 2002 maps). This I know to be true since I have spoken with Navteq. Is this National MAP update (not just certain states??)
What you guys are saying is that the DVD Map Update for the Lincoln Navigator works in the RX-8 and is a mere $40.
SO, I can go spend $40 at my local lincoln dealer to get the Aviator update disc and I will have the latest and greatest Map info my my RX-8?
If this is TRUE, please please please post to the Interior, Audio, and Electronics forum because there are a TON of 8 owners pissed off at Navteq and Mazda. Someone who got this to work please reply...if this works, I am going to my local Lincoln dealer tomorrow!
As of now, Navteq has not released NEW MAPS (2004/2005 year) for the RX8 (we all have 2002 maps). This I know to be true since I have spoken with Navteq. Is this National MAP update (not just certain states??)
What you guys are saying is that the DVD Map Update for the Lincoln Navigator works in the RX-8 and is a mere $40.
SO, I can go spend $40 at my local lincoln dealer to get the Aviator update disc and I will have the latest and greatest Map info my my RX-8?
If this is TRUE, please please please post to the Interior, Audio, and Electronics forum because there are a TON of 8 owners pissed off at Navteq and Mazda. Someone who got this to work please reply...if this works, I am going to my local Lincoln dealer tomorrow!
INCORRECT.
navtech has an updated DVD for the Mazda Rx-8. and they want $400 for it.
$200 to upgrade.
which is bs.
04-18-2005 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazieKave
INCORRECT.
navtech has an updated DVD for the Mazda Rx-8. and they want $400 for it.
$200 to upgrade.
which is bs.
navtech has an updated DVD for the Mazda Rx-8. and they want $400 for it.
$200 to upgrade.
which is bs.
04-18-2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazieKave
INCORRECT.
navtech has an updated DVD for the Mazda Rx-8. and they want $400 for it.
$200 to upgrade.
which is bs.
navtech has an updated DVD for the Mazda Rx-8. and they want $400 for it.
$200 to upgrade.
which is bs.
Last edited by djseto; 04-18-2005 at 10:36 PM.
04-19-2005 | 04:12 PM
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OK..Update (take it all with a grain of salt):
Spoke to Navteq again: I was told the discs for the 8 ARE already made, but they have not been given permission by Mazda to sell them. Starting with 2005 releases, end-users will buy updates from Navteq and NOT their local dealer. The Navteq rep also said the Lincoln Navigator DVD sysem is made by Denso whereas the 8 is Panasonic. I asked if any other company uses Panasonic and she said to her knowledge, no. She also said the 2005 Lincoln update is only available through them (which the dealer I spoke to confirmed) and that it was $165, not $40, so I am wondering what lincoln disc is being referred to in this thread is? I say call Mazda and bitch bitch bitch
Spoke to Navteq again: I was told the discs for the 8 ARE already made, but they have not been given permission by Mazda to sell them. Starting with 2005 releases, end-users will buy updates from Navteq and NOT their local dealer. The Navteq rep also said the Lincoln Navigator DVD sysem is made by Denso whereas the 8 is Panasonic. I asked if any other company uses Panasonic and she said to her knowledge, no. She also said the 2005 Lincoln update is only available through them (which the dealer I spoke to confirmed) and that it was $165, not $40, so I am wondering what lincoln disc is being referred to in this thread is? I say call Mazda and bitch bitch bitch
04-19-2005 | 04:47 PM
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Another Update:
Spoke to a Mazda Rep: He says that despite our conclusion that Mazda doesnt care, they do. He says this issue has been going on forever and thats its probably the number 1 complaint they get. He says it was wrong for the Mazda rep I spoke to earlier to blame Navteq because there are 3 parties involved (Mazda, Panasonic, Navteq)and blame should not be pointed at any one party. He said it would be inappropriate for thim to give us a ballpark figure of what they will cost, cause he said right now, no one knows for sure and it would just make the situation worse. He said all he can give us is a June/July estimated date, but he undestands that we dont have to believe him, because frankly, as a consumer, he wouldnt believe them either. He said we really dont need to complain because they have enough complaints compiled from the last year+, that they are working to figure this out. Truemagellan knows someone who works there who confirms the discs are already made. I just hate knowing that the discs are just collecting dust somewhere.....
I still say we call....
Spoke to a Mazda Rep: He says that despite our conclusion that Mazda doesnt care, they do. He says this issue has been going on forever and thats its probably the number 1 complaint they get. He says it was wrong for the Mazda rep I spoke to earlier to blame Navteq because there are 3 parties involved (Mazda, Panasonic, Navteq)and blame should not be pointed at any one party. He said it would be inappropriate for thim to give us a ballpark figure of what they will cost, cause he said right now, no one knows for sure and it would just make the situation worse. He said all he can give us is a June/July estimated date, but he undestands that we dont have to believe him, because frankly, as a consumer, he wouldnt believe them either. He said we really dont need to complain because they have enough complaints compiled from the last year+, that they are working to figure this out. Truemagellan knows someone who works there who confirms the discs are already made. I just hate knowing that the discs are just collecting dust somewhere.....
I still say we call....
04-21-2005 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by djseto
Where can you get this Mazda Update? Dealers in Atlanta don't know anything about it. According to Mazda and Navteq, it doesnt exist yet and its not on their website. I am not calling you a liar, but I spoke to a Navteq manager last week who said that the update isnt out yet. The ones that came with our cars were 2002 maps..the latest is suppose to be 2004/2005. If you know something we dont, please post to the main forum. I am more interested in the $40 solution...
the navtech rep i spoke with about 2 months ago told me that there is an updated DVD out, and it costs $400 to buy it.
04-21-2005 | 02:24 PM
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I say F them. They're in no hurry because the have no competition. They know you have no other place to buy the NAV disk. No matter how much they d!ck around, they know theat once it's released people are going to pay whatever price they set.
You can slam your head against a wall all you want, but if we were able to do something like this -> https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/official-hack-nav-thread-59117/ we wouldn't have to wait for them to get off their lazy asses and do something to help. If we could get something like that going, who GAF if or when they release the overpriced disks?
I think any efforts here may be misdirected. What promises do you have that this isn't going to happen every time there's a new update? And c'mon, $400 for a DVD? Show Mazda/NavTech/whomever that these updates (which will be out of date by the time we get them) are unneccessary and they'll be flinging them at us, most likely at a lower proce.
You can slam your head against a wall all you want, but if we were able to do something like this -> https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/official-hack-nav-thread-59117/ we wouldn't have to wait for them to get off their lazy asses and do something to help. If we could get something like that going, who GAF if or when they release the overpriced disks?
I think any efforts here may be misdirected. What promises do you have that this isn't going to happen every time there's a new update? And c'mon, $400 for a DVD? Show Mazda/NavTech/whomever that these updates (which will be out of date by the time we get them) are unneccessary and they'll be flinging them at us, most likely at a lower proce.
04-22-2005 | 03:56 PM
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I am thinking of buying an RX-8 with NAV but it has a east coast dvd reather than west coast which I need. Does anyone knowe if getting the west coast dvd is $400 too? I called two dealers and none of them know how to get it or how much it costs. Anyone knoe where I can find out? Thanks