SR motorcars in Gardena
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SR motorcars in Gardena
this is taken from my friends thread on g35driver.com
Edit: adding original link http://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/3...s-gardena.html
some more images from his flickr set
i've known my friend for a long time from school and also work, and for the last 2 years hes been complaining about this build and SR motorcars. From the get go i've told him to post it on the forums or to stop the project. But hes been too trusting and hoping it will eventually be fixed.
Im posting this as a caution for fellow socal members who frequent this shop. I know there are a couple of you in OC. Please be careful dealing with this shop.
Edit: adding original link http://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/3...s-gardena.html
watch out for SR Motor Cars in gardena
Its been 3 years and 3 months since i started the G35 project and only thing i have is a 55,000 dollar brick. I'm writing this so other people can avoid what has happened to me and stay away from SR motorcars.
Long story short, I started a project w Steven Rodger who runs a shop called SR motorcars, back in April 2007. The car was suppose to be done by November 2009. I gave him all the money by Aug 2008, which was about 50,000, but the car didn't come out until last month, May 2010. After 3 years the car was still not completed. None of my gauges worked, and the car wasn't running right. When i took it to another shop for inspection, I quickly found out the car was in a mess. I'm talking to a lawyer, and filing a fraud case against SR motorcars.
Now in details..... Back in 2007 around mid April, I had a chance to start a project car with one of my friend who owned a shop. It was going to be a wide body G35(since i had one) with a RB26 motor swap, but he had another customer who wanted to do the same thing so it got canceled. This is when I told Steven Rodgers about the project(we were friends back then) and how much i wanted to do it. About a week later he came up to me and asked if I was still interested in the project. When i asked him why, he said he also wanted to do a project like that but didn't have the money for it. so he asked if i was willing to pay for the parts and he would do all the labor and once the car was done he would take it to shows/magazines and promote his shop and afterwords I would get the car back. So i asked him how much this would coast and he told me it should be around 50,000 dollars.
Originally he told me that he would finish the car for the SEMA show, which is in Nov. quickly SEMA came along but the car was nowhere near completion. back then I couldn't say much because i only forked out 30,000 dollars. his next plan was to finish the car by 2008 SEMA show. Also around this time he moved in and we became roommates. By Aug 2008, i paid him $40,000 and this is when things started getting really messed up. Around this time steven rodgers came up to me and asked if i could give him the rest of the 50,000. I told him that I didn't feel comfortable giving him all the money without a contract agreement and any sort of invoice (yeah... bad idea) and also i didn't have the money. (i was going to sell my wrx when the car was done and give him the remaining money) after hearing this SR told me that he knew a friend that worked at a loan company and I could pull out the loan and pay it off with the wrx money. I asked him why couldn't he pull out a load instead, his answer? bad credit. so this is when we signed a contract agreement(stating that if the car is not done by end of Nov 2008, he would give me back the money) and he wrote me an invoice w parts that he was going to buy and have modified.
So SR took all the money by now.. was the car done by the SEMA show? nope. when Nov came and i asked him if the car was done, the answer was no. He also told me that he was going to move out of the apartment cause he didn't have any money to pay rent. (funny thing is while he was living w me for 14months he only paid rent twice, the rest? he would tell me to take it out of the project money and later he will put it back in) any how... when i asked him that i wanted my money back, he told me that he had no money and there was nothing he could do and telling me that either i could sue him and waste more money and time or just trust him one more time and give him more time to finish the car.
Who would've thought that little bit more time would become another year and a half. In order to speed up the process i even had to buy more parts for things that he already charged me for. (for example he charged me 1000 for gauges.... i bought my own tv screen and hks camp 2, he charged me 4000 for rims and tires, i ended up buying my friends used rims. he charged me 1500 for custom intake... at the end he just put a metal screen in front of the turbo...) I also gave him a set of defi gauges and he 'lost' the gauges. He said it wasn't his fault and he wasn't going to replace it or pay me back. He lost them back in feb 2008, when he went to jail for four months and one of his worker stole the gauges(defi 60mm boost, oil temp, oil pressure) from his office. (or at least that's what he says) why did he go to jail? well that's another story so ill skip it for now.
The gauges alone was worth 800, but he thinks its not his problem since it wasn't him who stole them (wow really...) anyway, after picking up the car i went to another shop right away(about 5mils away) just to make sure it was safe to drive it on the street. this turned out to be a very good idea since i found out that the car was not safe to drive at all. For examples, the drive shaft was too short, transmission mount was hitting the case, transmission and the engine was held by only the top three bolts together, 4 bolts on the bottom was missing, gasket between the tranny and the engine was missing, fan in the engine bay stopped working after few days(he made it in a way where the fan would stay on all the time if the engine was running) even tho the only time the car moved was to move it within the shop. straight pipe was hitting the body, he couldn't make the down pipe fit so he made a dent on it so it would fit. i also found a piece of hose holding the radiator in place (instead of making sure everything fits he just did some half *** job). also most of electric stuff doesn't work. In the beginning stage of the project, one of his worker decided to cut all the bcu wires (there was no reason to cut these wires) so what does SR do? instead of buying the right harness for the car, he buys a used one that doesn't even fit the car. result? the key-less is useless(doesn't work.. door lock/unlock, trunk release), the side mirrors doesn't move, the trunk will open only when the key is in the ignition, the radio doesn't work, and windows stopped working. (probably a bad connection) there are a lot more problems w the car but i think you get the idea now.
I also found out that his shop is not even registered shop. yep thats right.. this is the site you can go to and see it for your self, http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Repor...orts-100030581 the registered shop is called S&R motor sports(it has the same adres and phone no) and its owned by his land lord. I don't know what the deal was between him and his land lord but i think this is very shady way of running a business. I even talked to BAR and they said they are looking in to this situation. (they said hes not suppose to be working on street cars at all, since he doesn't have the license for it. even for the dyno (if anything happens to your car while its in his shop...well good luck.) Also never give him money for parts.. he will charge you for a new one but will put in a used part.(lot of the components in my car is used) There were more crazy **** during the project but I will stop here.(It seems like its getting really long.... ) So people watch out for this shop (and the owner)!!! If hes willing to scam people around him, I am sure he has no problem scamming others.
PICS : http://www.flickr.com/photos/5163706...57624507515918
P.S : if you know some one or have been scammed by SR motor cars, please let me know, my lawyer says the more people I can find, the stronger I can build this case.
update : found out hes going to jail at the end of this month (end of July 2010) He did a settlement with the two girls that filed the lawsuit. Hes going in for couple years (not sure on exact time). Some might ask what were the charges.... well im not going to say it, but ill give you a hint. It rhymes with grape.
Edit: update 2: deleted due to wishes of the OP
these are some pics, for more goto the link on the top
Its been 3 years and 3 months since i started the G35 project and only thing i have is a 55,000 dollar brick. I'm writing this so other people can avoid what has happened to me and stay away from SR motorcars.
Long story short, I started a project w Steven Rodger who runs a shop called SR motorcars, back in April 2007. The car was suppose to be done by November 2009. I gave him all the money by Aug 2008, which was about 50,000, but the car didn't come out until last month, May 2010. After 3 years the car was still not completed. None of my gauges worked, and the car wasn't running right. When i took it to another shop for inspection, I quickly found out the car was in a mess. I'm talking to a lawyer, and filing a fraud case against SR motorcars.
Now in details..... Back in 2007 around mid April, I had a chance to start a project car with one of my friend who owned a shop. It was going to be a wide body G35(since i had one) with a RB26 motor swap, but he had another customer who wanted to do the same thing so it got canceled. This is when I told Steven Rodgers about the project(we were friends back then) and how much i wanted to do it. About a week later he came up to me and asked if I was still interested in the project. When i asked him why, he said he also wanted to do a project like that but didn't have the money for it. so he asked if i was willing to pay for the parts and he would do all the labor and once the car was done he would take it to shows/magazines and promote his shop and afterwords I would get the car back. So i asked him how much this would coast and he told me it should be around 50,000 dollars.
Originally he told me that he would finish the car for the SEMA show, which is in Nov. quickly SEMA came along but the car was nowhere near completion. back then I couldn't say much because i only forked out 30,000 dollars. his next plan was to finish the car by 2008 SEMA show. Also around this time he moved in and we became roommates. By Aug 2008, i paid him $40,000 and this is when things started getting really messed up. Around this time steven rodgers came up to me and asked if i could give him the rest of the 50,000. I told him that I didn't feel comfortable giving him all the money without a contract agreement and any sort of invoice (yeah... bad idea) and also i didn't have the money. (i was going to sell my wrx when the car was done and give him the remaining money) after hearing this SR told me that he knew a friend that worked at a loan company and I could pull out the loan and pay it off with the wrx money. I asked him why couldn't he pull out a load instead, his answer? bad credit. so this is when we signed a contract agreement(stating that if the car is not done by end of Nov 2008, he would give me back the money) and he wrote me an invoice w parts that he was going to buy and have modified.
So SR took all the money by now.. was the car done by the SEMA show? nope. when Nov came and i asked him if the car was done, the answer was no. He also told me that he was going to move out of the apartment cause he didn't have any money to pay rent. (funny thing is while he was living w me for 14months he only paid rent twice, the rest? he would tell me to take it out of the project money and later he will put it back in) any how... when i asked him that i wanted my money back, he told me that he had no money and there was nothing he could do and telling me that either i could sue him and waste more money and time or just trust him one more time and give him more time to finish the car.
Who would've thought that little bit more time would become another year and a half. In order to speed up the process i even had to buy more parts for things that he already charged me for. (for example he charged me 1000 for gauges.... i bought my own tv screen and hks camp 2, he charged me 4000 for rims and tires, i ended up buying my friends used rims. he charged me 1500 for custom intake... at the end he just put a metal screen in front of the turbo...) I also gave him a set of defi gauges and he 'lost' the gauges. He said it wasn't his fault and he wasn't going to replace it or pay me back. He lost them back in feb 2008, when he went to jail for four months and one of his worker stole the gauges(defi 60mm boost, oil temp, oil pressure) from his office. (or at least that's what he says) why did he go to jail? well that's another story so ill skip it for now.
The gauges alone was worth 800, but he thinks its not his problem since it wasn't him who stole them (wow really...) anyway, after picking up the car i went to another shop right away(about 5mils away) just to make sure it was safe to drive it on the street. this turned out to be a very good idea since i found out that the car was not safe to drive at all. For examples, the drive shaft was too short, transmission mount was hitting the case, transmission and the engine was held by only the top three bolts together, 4 bolts on the bottom was missing, gasket between the tranny and the engine was missing, fan in the engine bay stopped working after few days(he made it in a way where the fan would stay on all the time if the engine was running) even tho the only time the car moved was to move it within the shop. straight pipe was hitting the body, he couldn't make the down pipe fit so he made a dent on it so it would fit. i also found a piece of hose holding the radiator in place (instead of making sure everything fits he just did some half *** job). also most of electric stuff doesn't work. In the beginning stage of the project, one of his worker decided to cut all the bcu wires (there was no reason to cut these wires) so what does SR do? instead of buying the right harness for the car, he buys a used one that doesn't even fit the car. result? the key-less is useless(doesn't work.. door lock/unlock, trunk release), the side mirrors doesn't move, the trunk will open only when the key is in the ignition, the radio doesn't work, and windows stopped working. (probably a bad connection) there are a lot more problems w the car but i think you get the idea now.
I also found out that his shop is not even registered shop. yep thats right.. this is the site you can go to and see it for your self, http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Repor...orts-100030581 the registered shop is called S&R motor sports(it has the same adres and phone no) and its owned by his land lord. I don't know what the deal was between him and his land lord but i think this is very shady way of running a business. I even talked to BAR and they said they are looking in to this situation. (they said hes not suppose to be working on street cars at all, since he doesn't have the license for it. even for the dyno (if anything happens to your car while its in his shop...well good luck.) Also never give him money for parts.. he will charge you for a new one but will put in a used part.(lot of the components in my car is used) There were more crazy **** during the project but I will stop here.(It seems like its getting really long.... ) So people watch out for this shop (and the owner)!!! If hes willing to scam people around him, I am sure he has no problem scamming others.
PICS : http://www.flickr.com/photos/5163706...57624507515918
P.S : if you know some one or have been scammed by SR motor cars, please let me know, my lawyer says the more people I can find, the stronger I can build this case.
update : found out hes going to jail at the end of this month (end of July 2010) He did a settlement with the two girls that filed the lawsuit. Hes going in for couple years (not sure on exact time). Some might ask what were the charges.... well im not going to say it, but ill give you a hint. It rhymes with grape.
Edit: update 2: deleted due to wishes of the OP
these are some pics, for more goto the link on the top
i've known my friend for a long time from school and also work, and for the last 2 years hes been complaining about this build and SR motorcars. From the get go i've told him to post it on the forums or to stop the project. But hes been too trusting and hoping it will eventually be fixed.
Im posting this as a caution for fellow socal members who frequent this shop. I know there are a couple of you in OC. Please be careful dealing with this shop.
Last edited by c0ldf1ame; 07-17-2010 at 04:30 PM.
07-16-2010, 06:33 PM
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it's the same place, and the post is 100% troll.
It's fun to write things on the interwebs. Make a really long detailed post, put up pics, blame someone completely, then cap it off saying they're going to jail for a few years for grape... too bad it's all false.
It's fun to write things on the interwebs. Make a really long detailed post, put up pics, blame someone completely, then cap it off saying they're going to jail for a few years for grape... too bad it's all false.
07-16-2010, 07:22 PM
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laythor, on what basis do you say its false, do you personally know anyone involved in this matter.
rglbegl, SR took my friends money and delivered pretty much a brick
im posting this here because i think its relevant to socal owners, because it is a popular shop on the forum, i dont want anyone to be scammed or have a mazsport incident happen all over again.
rglbegl, SR took my friends money and delivered pretty much a brick
im posting this here because i think its relevant to socal owners, because it is a popular shop on the forum, i dont want anyone to be scammed or have a mazsport incident happen all over again.
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07-16-2010, 10:49 PM
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This thread is worthless and really has no place on this forum.
The story is about a non-rotary car
Story is told second hand
This shop isn't even a rotary shop.
You post this on a forum where the 'accused' hardly ever frequents.
This shop has been a TREMENDOUS asset to this community and many of us have known Steve for years and have first hand knowledge of what he has done for our cars: trouble shooting, engine rebuild, Pettit install, dyno time, etc etc.
This thread is bullshit .
Everyone is free to take away their own conclusions from this but know that I continue to be support SR and the 2011 dyno day will go on as planned and will be hosted by the SR crew.
The story is about a non-rotary car
Story is told second hand
This shop isn't even a rotary shop.
You post this on a forum where the 'accused' hardly ever frequents.
This shop has been a TREMENDOUS asset to this community and many of us have known Steve for years and have first hand knowledge of what he has done for our cars: trouble shooting, engine rebuild, Pettit install, dyno time, etc etc.
This thread is bullshit .
Everyone is free to take away their own conclusions from this but know that I continue to be support SR and the 2011 dyno day will go on as planned and will be hosted by the SR crew.
07-16-2010, 11:41 PM
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This thread is worthless and really has no place on this forum.
The story is about a non-rotary car
Story is told second hand
This shop isn't even a rotary shop.
You post this on a forum where the 'accused' hardly ever frequents.
This shop has been a TREMENDOUS asset to this community and many of us have known Steve for years and have first hand knowledge of what he has done for our cars: trouble shooting, engine rebuild, Pettit install, dyno time, etc etc.
This thread is bullshit .
Everyone is free to take away their own conclusions from this but know that I continue to be support SR and the 2011 dyno day will go on as planned and will be hosted by the SR crew.
The story is about a non-rotary car
Story is told second hand
This shop isn't even a rotary shop.
You post this on a forum where the 'accused' hardly ever frequents.
This shop has been a TREMENDOUS asset to this community and many of us have known Steve for years and have first hand knowledge of what he has done for our cars: trouble shooting, engine rebuild, Pettit install, dyno time, etc etc.
This thread is bullshit .
Everyone is free to take away their own conclusions from this but know that I continue to be support SR and the 2011 dyno day will go on as planned and will be hosted by the SR crew.
Something must have happened; exactly what, only the partied involved may know. I don't think c0ldflame had any negative intentions in posting this so it may be interesting to see a followup. Unless you were firsthand involved in this or know for an absolute fact that this customer never existed, calling the entire story bullshit is jumping to conclusions, don't you think?
Simply because he treats you great does not mean he treats everyone great. It'll be interesting to see how this goes...
If you and Laythor happen to have information about this, please post. For those of us not directly connected to these people, this post does raise eyebrows. If you really do know some information, please share
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Jedi, I don't know what ur connection with sr is, I appreciate your other posts with good info. I only posted this story in the west forum because I thought it's only relevant to our socal members. And rotary car or not, build quality in the pictures above shows that the shop did an incompetent job. I would hate to see something like that on any car, especially a rotary car. And the fact that socal dyno days are hosted at this shop makes it relevent, (I have nothing but respect for the ones the run it, except SR).
Also if you notice, I merely copied and pasted the post from g35driver, these words are exactly as my friend (steve han) wrote it. Some of his other acusations may be taken with a grain of salt, but the fact of the matter is that he did get scammed out of 50000k on a crashed car with incompetant work.
What Im wondering is why are you so fast to put down race roots for being associated with mazsport (not that I support them), but admantly refuse and deny even any possibility that this post is legit even when there is picture evidence, and know full well that the car has been at the shop for 3+ years?
Honestly I don't like to argue on the Internet, since there really is no point, but Im just reposting this on this forum for the socal members to see and judge for themselves. I will post more pictures of the car as steve takes them.
Also if you notice, I merely copied and pasted the post from g35driver, these words are exactly as my friend (steve han) wrote it. Some of his other acusations may be taken with a grain of salt, but the fact of the matter is that he did get scammed out of 50000k on a crashed car with incompetant work.
What Im wondering is why are you so fast to put down race roots for being associated with mazsport (not that I support them), but admantly refuse and deny even any possibility that this post is legit even when there is picture evidence, and know full well that the car has been at the shop for 3+ years?
Honestly I don't like to argue on the Internet, since there really is no point, but Im just reposting this on this forum for the socal members to see and judge for themselves. I will post more pictures of the car as steve takes them.
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i'm with tilt on this one. i'm neither condemning nor condoning. i've met steve and he seems like a good dude, but i don't know him much.
i'm very much interested to see what happens here!
popcorn is out and i am not waiting to see what happens.
i'm very much interested to see what happens here!
popcorn is out and i am not waiting to see what happens.
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watch out for SR motorcars!
for those who can't DIY, its better to keep your eye open. its better safe, than sorry.
oh...and i can easily turn a blind eye about a shady shop who likes to jack people for their money. sure...
for those who can't DIY, its better to keep your eye open. its better safe, than sorry.
oh...and i can easily turn a blind eye about a shady shop who likes to jack people for their money. sure...
08-11-2010, 06:40 PM
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Cool story...
Steve's is a dick!
I mean he let me borrow his cherry picker for free so I could pull my engine, when I had no where else to turn. What a liar and a cheat.
He then let me keep it for a week without even questioning where it was.
Oh and he let me borrow his tools and his jack on the Dyno day without even charging me!!!!
OMG!! what a liar and a thief...
P.S. There is always 2 sides to a story. Chances are your "friend" asked why his car was taking so long and demanded Steve finish it or give it back to him. In which Steve being under pressure to finish many other projects replied "fine take it douche".
I have seen that G35 in the bay for years. Why the owner came by and asked what was up to see if he could help etc is beyond me.
Steve's is a dick!
I mean he let me borrow his cherry picker for free so I could pull my engine, when I had no where else to turn. What a liar and a cheat.
He then let me keep it for a week without even questioning where it was.
Oh and he let me borrow his tools and his jack on the Dyno day without even charging me!!!!
OMG!! what a liar and a thief...
P.S. There is always 2 sides to a story. Chances are your "friend" asked why his car was taking so long and demanded Steve finish it or give it back to him. In which Steve being under pressure to finish many other projects replied "fine take it douche".
I have seen that G35 in the bay for years. Why the owner came by and asked what was up to see if he could help etc is beyond me.
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Cool story...
Steve's is a dick!
I mean he let me borrow his cherry picker for free so I could pull my engine, when I had no where else to turn. What a liar and a cheat.
He then let me keep it for a week without even questioning where it was.
Oh and he let me borrow his tools and his jack on the Dyno day without even charging me!!!!
OMG!! what a liar and a thief...
P.S. There is always 2 sides to a story. Chances are your "friend" asked why his car was taking so long and demanded Steve finish it or give it back to him. In which Steve being under pressure to finish many other projects replied "fine take it douche".
I have seen that G35 in the bay for years. Why the owner came by and asked what was up to see if he could help etc is beyond me.
Steve's is a dick!
I mean he let me borrow his cherry picker for free so I could pull my engine, when I had no where else to turn. What a liar and a cheat.
He then let me keep it for a week without even questioning where it was.
Oh and he let me borrow his tools and his jack on the Dyno day without even charging me!!!!
OMG!! what a liar and a thief...
P.S. There is always 2 sides to a story. Chances are your "friend" asked why his car was taking so long and demanded Steve finish it or give it back to him. In which Steve being under pressure to finish many other projects replied "fine take it douche".
I have seen that G35 in the bay for years. Why the owner came by and asked what was up to see if he could help etc is beyond me.
to shadycrew31, I am happy that he let you borrow his tool for free and you feel good about him. you said there's always 2 sides to a story, funny how you never heard my side of the story and came up with your own conclusion. I basically told him "steve im not waiting over 3 years, after giving you 50G and you signing a contract agreement that you will finish it two years ago. the only reason i gave him all the money was, first, he was begging for all the money so he can buy all the parts, and second he said he would give me his rx-7(in his shop) pink slip if he doesn't finish the car on time so at least i can sell the car and get the money to pay back the loan i took out.(too bad i didn't get a written statement on that one) you said he was busy w many other projects, well during our g35 project, specially between 07 and 08, his shop was so slow he had hard time paying his shop rent. how do i know this? he asked me if i could give him some of the project money to pay his rent. like i said I lived w this guy for 14 months. every time he goes out w girls, " i asked him what about the car?" he would say " don't worry, its almost done, no hurries"
If hes so honest why doesn't he register his shop? his shops been running since 06, when i first found out about it and asked him, he said "oh, so i don't have to pay taxes"
I guess to some ppl, it would be ok. did you also know that he has no license to be working on any street cars nor dyno. he has no insurance so if anything happens to ur car during the dyno or if ur car gets stolen you are out of luck.
just to give ppl an update, hes in jail right now(went in on the last Friday of July), and i believe hes going to be there for couple years(not sure on the exact time but i heard its 3 years) this is his booking info
http://app4.lasd.org/iic/details.cfm...54284353b4f196
He also got served by me (and another person for different reason) before he went in. my court date is aug 30th. I'll let you know what the judge says about this case. maybe then you will see what kind of person he truly is.
oh one more thing, he told a BAR agent that he will finish the car by Dec, 2009, the car left the shop on may 2010. I gave him extra 5 months cause he told me he wanted to make sure the car was safe to drive on the street. it was HIS deadline, not mine. also if there was one thing he was busy w, it would be going on trips. snowboarding for three days, wake boarding over the weekends, vegas...etc
every time i showed up to his shop(since he never picks up his phone when i call him) he would be busy going out and partying w his friends. I even bought my own rims so i can take that car out of the shop even tho he charged me 4G for rims and tires.
none of this would've happened if he finished the car the way it should've been. Really, waiting over 3 years... I could live w that if he delivered what he promised. but nope..... like i said hes nothing but a scum bag looking for more ppl to scam. and that is why im telling my story to others. If you don't want to believe my story and go to the shop feel free cause i'm not stopping anyone.
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08-11-2010, 09:22 PM
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oh one more thing this is what BBB rates their shop. like i said, it says S&R motor sports but uses the same address and phone no as SR motor cars.
he has 3 unanswered complaints(with in three years)
Company Rating F
Our opinion of what this rating means:
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.
Just in case shadycrew31 doesn't believe me, here's the link...
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Repor...orts-100030581
he has 3 unanswered complaints(with in three years)
Company Rating F
Our opinion of what this rating means:
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.
Just in case shadycrew31 doesn't believe me, here's the link...
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Repor...orts-100030581
08-12-2010, 01:26 AM
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I did hear your side, I read the dissertation you wrote on the other forums. I realized you gave a friend 50k and said "make me a race car in 2 years kthxbai".
Oh hey its 3 years wheres my whip yo? You don't have it ready!!!! OMG we are so not friends, and I want my unfinished car that took you way past the deadline to get close to done. I know you were in jail for a little while, and you were prepping your car for some time attack events, and I know you went and had some fun on the weekends. Oh and some other customers cars you had to build. But i want my 100% custom car finished first...
The whole jail thing sucks. As for his charges Ill need to hear the story from both sides before I punch him across the face. I don't care who you are you don't treat women in that manner.
He still has never been anything but nice to me. Every time I've called or been to the shop he was there weekends weekdays etc. So I'd really like to hear his side to all of this.
P.S. The BBB is not a state mandated/regulated agency its a privatized corporation giving opinions.
Does he have a business license?
Oh hey its 3 years wheres my whip yo? You don't have it ready!!!! OMG we are so not friends, and I want my unfinished car that took you way past the deadline to get close to done. I know you were in jail for a little while, and you were prepping your car for some time attack events, and I know you went and had some fun on the weekends. Oh and some other customers cars you had to build. But i want my 100% custom car finished first...
The whole jail thing sucks. As for his charges Ill need to hear the story from both sides before I punch him across the face. I don't care who you are you don't treat women in that manner.
He still has never been anything but nice to me. Every time I've called or been to the shop he was there weekends weekdays etc. So I'd really like to hear his side to all of this.
P.S. The BBB is not a state mandated/regulated agency its a privatized corporation giving opinions.
Does he have a business license?
08-12-2010, 01:37 AM
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I did hear your side, I read the dissertation you wrote on the other forums. I realized you gave a friend 50k and said "make me a race car in 2 years kthxbai".
Oh hey its 3 years wheres my whip yo? You don't have it ready!!!! OMG we are so not friends, and I want my unfinished car that took you way past the deadline to get close to done. I know you were in jail for a little while, and you were prepping your car for some time attack events, and I know you went and had some fun on the weekends. Oh and some other customers cars you had to build. But i want my 100% custom car finished first...
The whole jail thing sucks. As for his charges Ill need to hear the story from both sides before I punch him across the face. I don't care who you are you don't treat women in that manner.
He still has never been anything but nice to me. Every time I've called or been to the shop he was there weekends weekdays etc. So I'd really like to hear his side to all of this.
P.S. The BBB is not a state mandated/regulated agency its a privatized corporation giving opinions.
Does he have a business license?
Oh hey its 3 years wheres my whip yo? You don't have it ready!!!! OMG we are so not friends, and I want my unfinished car that took you way past the deadline to get close to done. I know you were in jail for a little while, and you were prepping your car for some time attack events, and I know you went and had some fun on the weekends. Oh and some other customers cars you had to build. But i want my 100% custom car finished first...
The whole jail thing sucks. As for his charges Ill need to hear the story from both sides before I punch him across the face. I don't care who you are you don't treat women in that manner.
He still has never been anything but nice to me. Every time I've called or been to the shop he was there weekends weekdays etc. So I'd really like to hear his side to all of this.
P.S. The BBB is not a state mandated/regulated agency its a privatized corporation giving opinions.
Does he have a business license?
Best of luck to him as it looks like he's in quite a rough spot and needs all the luck he can take right now. Best of luck to gochurush to getting everything straightened out as best as possible.
I still wish laythor and jedi would explain how/why they knew the original post to be full of ****?
