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Old 02-05-2008 | 06:41 PM
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So....question for AZ drivers.....
Anyone had their picture's taken on the Scottsdale 101 Loop? I think I did, the other night....but there were like 3 of us going the same speed. Either way,. I think we were all screwed.
Oh well,...so, has anyone not answered those tickets? And, if so...what happens? (knock on wood! I don't get one though!!...) Just curious, since it would be a 1st.
thx!!
Heads up: i know....i was an idiot for speeding through that area....
Old 02-05-2008 | 11:08 PM
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speed in track..
Old 02-06-2008 | 08:14 PM
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If you get one in the mail it'll give your options. I do believe unpaid driving citations = warrant for your arrest. If it's your 1st you can go to driving school. It will cost you $$, but not points.

Good luck.
Old 02-06-2008 | 09:47 PM
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My understanding is that you can effectively ignore them as AZ law requires an in person process serving and that a mailed ticket doesn't cut it. Do a google search on AZ photo tickets.
Old 02-06-2008 | 10:14 PM
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So what happens when you run a red light and you get photograped.

Or don't they camaras at busy intersections?
Old 02-07-2008 | 10:09 AM
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ive already gotten flashed once.....back when i was drivin my 240, i was doin 75 in a 35 zone, i ended passin a red light and i got flashed, my ticket came in like a month later and it was $400! + traffic school....not cool.
Old 02-08-2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dozer
ive already gotten flashed once.....back when i was drivin my 240, i was doin 75 in a 35 zone, i ended passin a red light and i got flashed, my ticket came in like a month later and it was $400! + traffic school....not cool.
that really sucks Dozer....hope you don't get anymore of those!
Old 02-08-2008 | 03:58 PM
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So what happens when you run a red light and you get photograped.

Or don't they camaras at busy intersections?
They have to have a photograph of YOU, not the car. The ticket is for the driver. If you don't photograph the driver, the ticket is no good.
Old 02-08-2008 | 06:56 PM
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I'm in Tucson and am not familiar with the area but make sure these terms apply. I know it's a lot of reading but knowledge is power. Let me know if this helps. I work a Law Enforcement Agency in Tucson.

28-654. Photo enforcement zones; signage; standards; citation dismissal

A. Except as provided in subsection F of this section, every local authority or agency of this state using a photo enforcement system shall adopt standards and specifications that indicate to a person operating a motor vehicle that a photo enforcement system is present and operational.

B. The standards and specifications adopted pursuant to subsection A of this section shall include both of the following:

1. At least two signs shall be placed in a location before a photo enforcement system. One sign shall be in a location that is approximately three hundred feet before the photo enforcement system. Placement of additional signs shall be more than three hundred feet before a photo enforcement system to provide reasonable notice to a person that a photo enforcement system is present and operational.

2. Signs indicating a photo enforcement system shall be removed or covered when the photo enforcement system is no longer present or not operating.

C. Signs erected by a local authority or agency of this state as prescribed in this section shall contain a yellow warning notice and correlate with and as far as possible conform to the system set forth in the most recent edition of the manual on uniform traffic control devices for streets and highways adopted by the director pursuant to section 28-641.

D. If the standards and specifications prescribed pursuant to this section are not in effect during the operation of a photo enforcement system, the court may dismiss any citation issued to a person who is identified by the use of the photo enforcement system.

E. During the time a vehicle containing photo enforcement equipment is being used to identify violators of this article and article 6 of this chapter, the rear of the vehicle shall be clearly marked to indicate that the vehicle is functioning as a photo enforcement vehicle. This subsection does not apply to a vehicle that does not contain a photo enforcement system and that is used by a law enforcement officer.

F. Subsection B of this section does not apply to a mobile photo enforcement vehicle during the time a mobile photo enforcement vehicle is deployed on streets with a posted speed limit of forty miles per hour or less.
Old 02-09-2008 | 10:29 AM
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yea, I got a ticket in the mail once but it was dismissed because the driver wasn't seen (had sunvisor down at night, wierd huh)
Old 02-09-2008 | 10:34 AM
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Red light tickets are serious business and you are given points if caught by a red light camera.

As for speed cameras, it does appear that the ticket can be ignored unless it's served to you by a police officer. However, the ticket shows as unpaid on your record so if you're stopped you'll be sure to get THAT ticket as well.

Speed camera tickets don't count for points but I believe the speed van tickets do since it's occupied by a police officer.

Unless you can clearly show that the driver or license plate cannot be identified then I'm not sure what to tell ya.
Old 02-09-2008 | 12:15 PM
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I'm going to end this once and for all.

http://www.speedingticketcentral.com...ng-ticket.html

Court of Appeals of Arizona, Division One, Department C 171 Ariz. 449; 831 P.2d 448; 1992 Ariz. App. May 12, 1992 The appellant's recourse when a defendant fails to execute the acknowledgement of receipt is to continue the hearing and serve the complaint by some other authorized method. See Ariz.R.Civ.P. 4.1(c)(3). Until the magistrate's court obtains personal jurisdiction, it has no power to enter an order of civil sanction against a defendant.

The problem is that some Arizona traffic courts ignore this court decision and will suspend your license if you fail to acknowledge the summons. One way is to retain an Arizona traffic attorney to have the speeding ticket dismissed. The court can then attempt personal service.

Are points assessed against my driver's license for photo enforcement convictions?

Yes. In accordance with Arizona Administrative Code R17-4-404, Driver Point System, points are assessed by the Arizona MVD for each conviction reported to them by the Court. Each red light conviction is assigned two points, and each speed conviction is assigned three points.

Arizona Department of Transportation officials yesterday gave final approval to Scottsdale's plan to install automated speeding ticket cameras on the Loop 101 freeway. The city will start installing the devices overnight today with cameras being ready to issue the first tickets by February 9. Early estimates suggested the city could issue between 1500 and 2500 tickets every day, generating $235,000 in daily revenue. Read full 12/22/2005 news report Arizona Photo Radar Tickets

Photo radar units on the Loop 101 freeway in Scottsdale, Arizona have generated more than $2,894,766 in revenue since the set of six speed cameras were activated on February 22. As of May 3, the city mailed 18,438 citations worth between $157 and $201 each. Australian vendor Redflex takes a $42.48 cut of the profit on each ticket the company is able to generate.

Out of State License Arizona Photo Radar Ticket

Arizona Photo Radar tickets must be served. If you acknowledge the first letter you receive or sign for the certified letter that will follow, you are considered to be served. If you are not served, the court must (read should) dismiss the ticket. Our information is that out of state drivers can safely ignore an Arizona photo radar ticket since the state has not hired process servers for out of state tickets. The law or their policies may change so be sure to check out the latest reports to be certain this information is correct.

WARNING: The city of Scottsdale is now hiring process servers for out of state camera tickets.

Cobra radar detectors have a unit with built in GPS warnings of red light and photo radar locations. If you live in the Scottsdale area, you may want to consider installing one in your vehicle or try the new GPS mirror. Click on the GPS banner below for our recommendations on radar and laser detectors.


A Google search indicates that as a matter of course AZ does not spend resources trying to follow up if you don't respond. Of course if you're dumb enough to respond you get what you deserve.
Old 02-11-2008 | 10:55 AM
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Very good...thanks Paul_mnly & Davey's!
Definitely helpful, thx!!
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